According to one source I saw today, Florida is now 41st in the country in new cases per capita. Estimated infections per capita have fallen almost to the Spring lows. Hospitalizations and test positivity rate also continue to plummet, both by about 60% in the past ~4 weeks. Reported deaths have now also started to fall, though there are undoubtedly plenty of backlogged August deaths to keep the count up for a little while. With a microscopic estimated Rt of 0.53 according to covidestim.com, the numbers are destined to continue to plummet at least until they hit or eclipse the Spring lows.
Granted, local officials and many people of the state, quite rationally, changed their behavior to some extent during the summer wave, but DeSantis has backed down not a millimeter, and yet the COVID wave has fallen apart just the same (as I predicted it would several weeks ago).
Maybe, just maybe, we should consider the possibility that the wave was not DeSantis' fault and that government really doesn't have all that much control over COVID spread (unless you're willing to behave like you're in Wuhan or Melbourne, that is)?
01 Oct 21
@sh76 saidPer 100,000 people, 70 Floridians have died compared only 12 Californians.
According to one source I saw today, Florida is now 41st in the country in new cases per capita. Estimated infections per capita have fallen almost to the Spring lows. Hospitalizations and test positivity rate also continue to plummet, both by about 60% in the past ~4 weeks. Reported deaths have now also started to fall, though there are undoubtedly plenty of backlogged August d ...[text shortened]... trol over COVID spread (unless you're willing to behave like you're in Wuhan or Melbourne, that is)?
@sh76 saidThis seems to be pretty good news. Let's hope the trend continues.
According to one source I saw today, Florida is now 41st in the country in new cases per capita. Estimated infections per capita have fallen almost to the Spring lows. Hospitalizations and test positivity rate also continue to plummet, both by about 60% in the past ~4 weeks. Reported deaths have now also started to fall, though there are undoubtedly plenty of backlogged August d ...[text shortened]... trol over COVID spread (unless you're willing to behave like you're in Wuhan or Melbourne, that is)?
I noticed as the deaths began to rise from the Delta variant, so did the vaccination rate, I'm sure this had something to do with the case totals dropping.
Looking forward to the day no one has to sit in an OTB tournament with a mask on. 🙂
01 Oct 21
@sh76 saidBut the damage is done.
According to one source I saw today, Florida is now 41st in the country in new cases per capita. Estimated infections per capita have fallen almost to the Spring lows. Hospitalizations and test positivity rate also continue to plummet, both by about 60% in the past ~4 weeks. Reported deaths have now also started to fall, though there are undoubtedly plenty of backlogged August d ...[text shortened]... trol over COVID spread (unless you're willing to behave like you're in Wuhan or Melbourne, that is)?
I'll bet that you're one of those guys who defended GW Bush after hurricane Katrina.
But.....but.... hurricane Katrina went away.
GW Bush wasn't that bad. 🙄
@sh76 saidMultiple reasons for the R-rate dropping.
According to one source I saw today, Florida is now 41st in the country in new cases per capita. Estimated infections per capita have fallen almost to the Spring lows. Hospitalizations and test positivity rate also continue to plummet, both by about 60% in the past ~4 weeks. Reported deaths have now also started to fall, though there are undoubtedly plenty of backlogged August d ...[text shortened]... trol over COVID spread (unless you're willing to behave like you're in Wuhan or Melbourne, that is)?
People getting vaccinated, people taking other measures (social distancing, masks, etc.), the people vulnerable to dying from the disease already dead, etc.
Let’s hope for Florida’s sake that the Delta variant was the worst of it. It’s not like their politicians actually care about people’s safety.
01 Oct 21
@shavixmir saidAdd to your list of reasons: school districts and businesses ignoring Ron DeSantis' mandates.
Multiple reasons for the R-rate dropping.
People getting vaccinated, people taking other measures (social distancing, masks, etc.), the people vulnerable to dying from the disease already dead, etc.
Let’s hope for Florida’s sake that the Delta variant was the worst of it. It’s not like their politicians actually care about people’s safety.
@sh76 said"Fallen apart"? Florida presently has 929,441 active cases and a total of 3.6 million documented cases out of a population of about 21.5 million. 55,000 Floridians have died from COVID, the majority this year. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
According to one source I saw today, Florida is now 41st in the country in new cases per capita. Estimated infections per capita have fallen almost to the Spring lows. Hospitalizations and test positivity rate also continue to plummet, both by about 60% in the past ~4 weeks. Reported deaths have now also started to fall, though there are undoubtedly plenty of backlogged August d ...[text shortened]... trol over COVID spread (unless you're willing to behave like you're in Wuhan or Melbourne, that is)?
You really should stop making threads touting their great success in managing the pandemic mainly by taking actions that ensured its maximum spread.
01 Oct 21
@shavixmir saidIt's the Floridans' turd mentality finally kicking in.
Multiple reasons for the R-rate dropping.
People getting vaccinated, people taking other measures (social distancing, masks, etc.), the people vulnerable to dying from the disease already dead, etc.
Let’s hope for Florida’s sake that the Delta variant was the worst of it. It’s not like their politicians actually care about people’s safety.
01 Oct 21
@no1marauder said"From" or "with", just askin, the more people that have it, the more will die with it. Like the coroner asking the question as to why a murder suicide was classified as two covid deaths.
"Fallen apart"? Florida presently has 929,441 active cases and a total of 3.6 million documented cases out of a population of about 21.5 million. 55,000 Floridians have died from COVID, the majority this year. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
You really should stop making threads touting their great success in managing the pandemic mainly by taking actions that ensured its maximum spread.
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01 Oct 21
@sh76 saidI don't know where such "sourcing" comes from, but where I work... Covid is in full bloom.
According to one source I saw today, Florida is now 41st in the country in new cases per capita. Estimated infections per capita have fallen almost to the Spring lows. Hospitalizations and test positivity rate also continue to plummet, both by about 60% in the past ~4 weeks. Reported deaths have now also started to fall, though there are undoubtedly plenty of backlogged August d ...[text shortened]... trol over COVID spread (unless you're willing to behave like you're in Wuhan or Melbourne, that is)?
DeSantis is indeed, very culpable for this localized disaster.
From his rush to end the recommended shutdowns to his absurd opposition to mask mandates, the guy is in it for himself.
Additionally, his trumpian impulse to cause trouble for those whom attempt to disseminate the truth will not soon be forgotten.
In my workplace alone we've lost 4 to this horrid disease. One, just last week!
The only collapse here in Florida, is the competence of DeSantis' administration.
@no1marauder saidWhen CNN celebrates (or at least acknowledges) the receding of the Florida COVID wave like it did in New York and California, I'll stop pointing it out.
You really should stop making threads touting their great success in managing the pandemic mainly by taking actions that ensured its maximum spread.
01 Oct 21
@sh76 saidIn the month since you started the last thread patting DeSantis on his back, there have been 5700 COVID deaths in Florida and more than 300,000 new cases. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
When CNN celebrates (or at least acknowledges) the receding of the Florida COVID wave like it did in New York and California, I'll stop pointing it out.
Granted that isn't as catastrophic as August was, but it's hardly the "rapid decline" you keep crowing about.
@no1marauder saidThe rapid decline is in infections. Death lag infections by about a month, on average, and reports of deaths lag by even more. Many of the deaths reported this month actually happened in July and August and the vast majority of September deaths resulted from infections earlier than this month. Reported cases also lag infections because after the infection, the virus has to incubate, the symptoms have to develop, the patient has to seek a test, the test result has to come back, the result has to be reported and the report has to be entered into the data. From infection to "case" is ~ 2-4 weeks.
In the month since you started the last thread patting DeSantis on his back, there have been 5700 COVID deaths in Florida and more than 300,000 new cases. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
Granted that isn't as catastrophic as August was, but it's hardly the "rapid decline" you keep crowing about.
As far as I can tell, covidestim is the best source for real time COVID estimates. The worldometers numbers represent what was happening a couple of weeks ago for cases and many weeks ago for deaths. What you've seen on covidestim for the last weeks will manifest in the October and November official numbers.
@sh76 saidYou are wrong; Florida counts deaths on the date of death, not when they are finally reported. So the 5700 figure is surely an undercount which will creep up in the weeks ahead. https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-numbers/florida-reports-covid-death-cases-changes/67-c5d04e80-56ad-4fb7-906b-b795f6922c26
The rapid decline is in infections. Death lag infections by about a month, on average, and reports of deaths lag by even more. Many of the deaths reported this month actually happened in July and August and the vast majority of September deaths resulted from infections earlier than this month. Reported cases also lag infections because after the infection, the virus has to incub ...[text shortened]... ve seen on covidestim for the last weeks will manifest in the October and November official numbers.
Cases are now also counted on the day of the positive test, not when reported to the State. So much of the "progress" you are seeing is a mirage; the September case counts will also be adjusted higher in the future.
@sh76 saidThe virus is running out of people to infect in FL.
According to one source I saw today, Florida is now 41st in the country in new cases per capita. Estimated infections per capita have fallen almost to the Spring lows. Hospitalizations and test positivity rate also continue to plummet, both by about 60% in the past ~4 weeks. Reported deaths have now also started to fall, though there are undoubtedly plenty of backlogged August d ...[text shortened]... trol over COVID spread (unless you're willing to behave like you're in Wuhan or Melbourne, that is)?
The more people that get it the closer to herd immunity a region gets. It is the only possibility to achieve herd immunity since the gene vaccines are worthless for that.
I support how DeSantis has handled things in FL. Most everyone in FL had the option to take the gene vaccine if they thought they were high at risk. Letting it spread is the most logical option now. It is good for the economy in the long term.
no1 thinks he needs to save people that don't want to be saved. You cannot save people from themselves. You can save the economy though. That should be the priority now.