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@Earl-of-Trumps saidOh, but the Trumpublicans can re-draw lines and magically create 5 new seats. Same population.
@Mott-The-Hoople said - what are democrats going to do when all these illegals dont vote for them?
Mott, the *real* benefit the dems have been getting over the years is -
Having more illegals increases the population of that state and, that state now gets more seats in the House!
And yes, the illegals will fill those seats with democrats. the bleepin' cheaters.
That's better? Geeeeeez, this is why they can't govern. They need the corruption to govern, and can't govern without it.
@wildgrass saidAll because the rich MUST get richer, don't you know.
Expensive government. Too expensive. Y'all don't care.
Trump puts Biden to shame on the spending. Massively more year over year spending and in the context of destructive cuts to medical research and other programs.
@AverageJoe1 saidKeep your day job. Comedy is not your thing.
? If a tribe in the Congo has a village to take care of, they will elect some people to do things in their campfire councils to grow the village. The village will grow with their guidance, but that does not mean that the government itself is growing. The government causes certain investments to occur, so that everyone can be successful in their lives. That is to get Rich or throw darts in a pub, but the government itself does not grow..
@AverageJoe1 saidBut I bet Kamala can spell 'would' correctly.
Whatever. A manufacturing business that I have a piece of also borrows money. They have more debt than they did when they started. But their revenues have grown. So why do you not tell us that the United States has received billions of dollars due to Trump‘s tariffs and trade deals. So he is spending money to make money is the way I see it. This is beyond the scope of Sue ...[text shortened]... that economists throw around that she has never even heard, and would certainly not understand?????
@Earl-of-Trumps saidEarl, if we need to spend that kind of cash every other year to gerrymander republican districts then Republicans should pay for it.
Hot damn, Trump spends money like a drunken sailor. jeeezis.
BUT, mister wild, this census has to be done.
Not me.
If ideas don’t win elections then democracy is pointless. Time to end it. The GOP bleating about gerrymandering is an admission their ideas lose.
@Suzianne saidYou are correct. Voting against your self-interest is not a good thing 🤔 . Neither you nor I nor anyone in the Universe would vote against their self-interest. Sometimes you just nail it!!
No, pinhead, it is voting against your own self-interest that is the brain-dead thing to do.
"Tap, tap, is this thing on? Am I speaking English? Ok, then..."
@wildgrass saidThe US debt crisis is more about too few tax dollars being collected than about too many tax dollars being wasted.
Total US debt has officially crossed above $37 trillion for the first time in history.
This puts total US debt up +$780 billion since the debt ceiling was raised following the signing of the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" into law.
This equates to an average cost of $22 billion per day.
Last week alone, the government sold $724 billion in Treasuries through 10 auctio ...[text shortened]... still, is owning the libs. No matter how much of your taxes are wasted by irresponsible governance.
Our spending isn't that high compared to most other countries.
https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/government-spending-to-gdp
Sure, we could always stand to cut some wasteful spending, and a lot of the crap that DOGE cut were good cuts. But fundamentally, we'll never have a balanced budget until people making serious money pay more than they're paying today.
Personally, I think that transfer taxes are the lowest hanging fruit. Just treat inheritances and gifts beyond the annual exclusion as ordinary income. That's probably a quarter of a trillion a year right there. Then jack up the highest bracket from 37% to maybe 42%. Eliminate the cap in FICA, limit some depreciation deductions.
You know, a hundred billion here and a hundred billion there, and before you know it, you're talking about real money.
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@sh76 saidThe spending is accelerated under trump so that may not be the case for long.
The US debt crisis is more about too few tax dollars being collected than about too many tax dollars being wasted.
Our spending isn't that high compared to most other countries.
https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/government-spending-to-gdp
Sure, we could always stand to cut some wasteful spending, and a lot of the crap that DOGE cut were good cuts. But fundamenta ...[text shortened]... d billion here and a hundred billion there, and before you know it, you're talking about real money.
Of course think about any budget it's the combination of spending and income. If we want to be a country with a low tax burden for citizens, we need to spend less than other countries. Debt is high because Republicans have consistently moved both arms of the equation in the wrong direction for decades. But this administration has taken it to another level.
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@wildgrass saidThe 2021 deficit was $2.8 trillion.
The spending is accelerated under trump so that may not be the case for long.
Of course think about any budget it's the combination of spending and income. If we want to be a country with a low tax burden for citizens, we need to spend less than other countries. Debt is high because Republicans have consistently moved both arms of the equation in the wrong direction for decades. But this administration has taken it to another level.
And please don't tell me "covid." Covid was a partial excuses for 2020, but by 2021, covid didn't have to affect the economy. To the extent it did, it was about bad policy.
Plus, 2024's deficit was bigger than 2025 (https://www.statista.com/statistics/200410/surplus-or-deficit-of-the-us-governments-budget-since-2000/)
Both sides are culpable on this.
@AverageJoe1 saidRevenues are generated by tariffs. But they don't come from foreign countries. They come from whoever buys the goods in America, i.e. the American middle class, who are undertaxed by world standards. These are the voters your loony leader is fooling.
This one is saying that revenues are not generated by tariffs!!!
Australia sells blood products to America. Trump puts a tariff on those products. The people who pay those tariffs are medical insurance companies and Medicaid. The Australian manufacturer gets the same amount or takes his business elsewhere. The medical insurance companies put up their prices to cover the extra cost, and Medicaid lets a few more Americans die.
Tariffs aren't a price-cut for foreign companies, they're a hidden tax on the citizens.
If you want to dispute this, no stupid granny inventions please, they're not rational arguments.
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@sh76 saidBad policy causing the 2021 deficit would have been caused by which administration? Deficits are understandable as a response to a major conflict or economic shock. E.g wwII, 9/11, the 08 recession, COVID.
The 2021 deficit was $2.8 trillion.
And please don't tell me "covid." Covid was a partial excuses for 2020, but by 2021, covid didn't have to affect the economy. To the extent it did, it was about bad policy.
Plus, 2024's deficit was bigger than 2025 (https://www.statista.com/statistics/200410/surplus-or-deficit-of-the-us-governments-budget-since-2000/)
Both sides are culpable on this.
The deficit number then came down in the out years of all those events.
Edit: both sides is not the answer here. Every republican president raises deficits, every Democrat president lowers deficits. This has been true for 45 years of data.
@Kewpie saidA shorter way to say this, is that the costs to make and distribute (sell) a product are built into the final price of the product.
Revenues are generated by tariffs. But they don't come from foreign countries. They come from whoever buys the goods in America, i.e. the American middle class, who are undertaxed by world standards. These are the voters your loony leader is fooling.
Australia sells blood products to America. Trump puts a tariff on those products. The people who pay those tariffs are m ...[text shortened]...
If you want to dispute this, no stupid granny inventions please, they're not rational arguments.
Re your other note, Trump is loony?
@sh76 saidthis only becomes an issue when Republicans are in office right?
The 2021 deficit was $2.8 trillion.
And please don't tell me "covid." Covid was a partial excuses for 2020, but by 2021, covid didn't have to affect the economy. To the extent it did, it was about bad policy.
Plus, 2024's deficit was bigger than 2025 (https://www.statista.com/statistics/200410/surplus-or-deficit-of-the-us-governments-budget-since-2000/)
Both sides are culpable on this.