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@no1marauder said
The fact that the mid-decade census under the rules Trump is insisting on is both illegal and unconstitutional is a bit more important than bean counter objections.
More important to you maybe.

Thousands of scientists may lost their jobs nationwide over a $15 billion NIH budget cut, with the rationale that it was wasteful spending. Then they turn around and spend it on a useless repeat of a census that was just recently completed?

I don't care if it's unconstitutional. It's dumb wasteful government spending in a period where they are trying to impose austerity measures in government.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
can you post your stat source? or are you just making these things up?
Stat source for what? The American middle class being undertaxed by world standards?


@AverageJoe1 said
A shorter way to say this, is that the costs to make and distribute (sell) a product are built into the final price of the product.

Re your other note, Trump is loony?
Only an American Republican would doubt the truth of that statement.


@Suzianne said
You are your brother's keeper, you know.
Here we go. Cain had his reasons for not wanting to do things for Abel, and so he asked God . Am I his keeper.?!?!?? I think that would be a fair question since he did not want anything to do with him. Do you follow?


@wildgrass said
More important to you maybe.

Thousands of scientists may lost their jobs nationwide over a $15 billion NIH budget cut, with the rationale that it was wasteful spending. Then they turn around and spend it on a useless repeat of a census that was just recently completed?

I don't care if it's unconstitutional. It's dumb wasteful government spending in a period where they are trying to impose austerity measures in government.
The idea that you think not spending $15 billion on a useless illegal and unconstitutional census might actually save spending cuts on something useful shows childish naivety but nothing else.

The US upper class is taxed ridiculously low, we spend absurd amounts on weapons and war and we have an inefficient and wasteful health care system that is more concerned with corporate profits than the actual health of the People. Until those structural defects are addressed, partisan whining like yours won't accomplish anything.


@no1marauder said
The idea that you think not spending $15 billion on a useless illegal and unconstitutional census might actually save spending cuts on something useful shows childish naivety but nothing else.

The US upper class is taxed ridiculously low, we spend absurd amounts on weapons and war and we have an inefficient and wasteful health care system that is more concerned with co ...[text shortened]... Until those structural defects are addressed, partisan whining like yours won't accomplish anything.
It's not an idea. $15 billion is a real number and a lot of money.

When the US military "loses" pallets of cash in the desert, the reality is that this money was stolen from US taxpayers. That same principle applies here. You can argue constitution all day long but the use of tax dollars to support political operations is wrong prima facie and should be rejected by voters not judges.


@wildgrass said
2021 was historic but a lot less than 2020 so...
Actually, it was just a little less than 2020... with infinitely less excuse.

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@sh76 said
Actually, it was just a little less than 2020... with infinitely less excuse.
What happened in Bidens first budget year though?

A $1.4 trillion drop in the deficit in 2022. That's historic. The only thing he could have done better policy wise would have been repealing all of Trump's policies, but he had a republican Senate.


@Kewpie said
Stat source for what? The American middle class being undertaxed by world standards?
You made TWO claims…

“Revenues are generated by tariffs. But they don't come from foreign countries. They come from whoever buys the goods in America, i.e. the American middle class, who are undertaxed by world standards”

Lets see your stat source

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@sh76 said
Actually, it was just a little less than 2020... with infinitely less excuse.
There were more COVID deaths in the US in 2021 than there were in 2020.https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Foolish policies that you supported by politicians like DeSantis and Noem contributed to the length and severity of the pandemic.


@wildgrass said
What happened in Bidens first budget year though?

A $1.4 trillion drop in the deficit in 2022. That's historic. The only thing he could have done better policy wise would have been repealing all of Trump's policies, but he had a republican Senate.
The apples-to-apples comparison for 2022 would be to 2019, not to 2021.


@no1marauder said
There were more COVID deaths in the US in 2021 than there were in 2020.https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Foolish policies that you supported by politicians like DeSantis and Noem contributed to the length and severity of the pandemic.
We're so far apart on covid policy that it hardly even pays to go at it again, but for anyone who's interested, this book by David Zweig makes my case pretty clearly (though he does repeat himself too much):

https://www.amazon.com/Abundance-Caution-American-Schools-Decisions/dp/0262549158


@AverageJoe1 said
Here we go. Cain had his reasons for not wanting to do things for Abel, and so he asked God . Am I his keeper.?!?!?? I think that would be a fair question since he did not want anything to do with him. Do you follow?
Look where that got him. He was banished, never to be heard from again.

Why do you never close your posts?


@sh76 said
The apples-to-apples comparison for 2022 would be to 2019, not to 2021.
Maybe true, but isn't that when Trump's tax cuts took effect?

Again, repealing everything the trump white house did would have been the best move for Biden on the fiscal front.


@sh76 said
We're so far apart on covid policy that it hardly even pays to go at it again, but for anyone who's interested, this book by David Zweig makes my case pretty clearly (though he does repeat himself too much):

https://www.amazon.com/Abundance-Caution-American-Schools-Decisions/dp/0262549158
If we want the opinion of a writer with no medical training who's a critic of mask wearing during a deadly pandemic and a supporter of the Great Barrington Declaration, we can read Metal Brain here.