16 Jul 21
There's no evidence that any of the current Covid-19 vaccines can completely stop people from being infected – and this has implications for our prospects of achieving herd immunity.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210203-why-vaccinated-people-may-still-be-able-to-spread-covid-19
@metal-brain saidFire departments can't stop every fire
There's no evidence that any of the current Covid-19 vaccines can completely stop people from being infected – and this has implications for our prospects of achieving herd immunity.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210203-why-vaccinated-people-may-still-be-able-to-spread-covid-19
Seatbelts don't save everyone ever involved in a car crash
Umbrellas don't keep you 100% dry in the rain
Sometimes, when planes take off, they don't safely land
Let's all list some things that aren't perfect but still worth using.
Maybe the conspiracy nut will understand this concept if given enough examples.
16 Jul 21
@zahlanzi saidWhat are the numbers?
Fire departments can't stop every fire
Seatbelts don't save everyone ever involved in a car crash
Umbrellas don't keep you 100% dry in the rain
Sometimes, when planes take off, they don't safely land
Let's all list some things that aren't perfect but still worth using.
Maybe the conspiracy nut will understand this concept if given enough examples.
If you have a statistic to point to do so.
16 Jul 21
@metal-brain saidMuch less than they would be without the vaccines. That's all the effort I am willing to spend on your behalf.
What are the numbers?
If you have a statistic to point to do so.
@zahlanzi saidFrom the link I provided in my OP:
Much less than they would be without the vaccines. That's all the effort I am willing to spend on your behalf.
“If the vaccines don't completely stop transmission, it will increase the amount of people we need to vaccinate to truly cross the herd immunity thresholds and drive down cases to somewhere near zero,"
You branch covidians have an uphill battle and you pretend you are not concerned with numbers. Remember when Fauci lied about those numbers? Said he didn't think people were ready for the truth yet.
Fauci is allowed to spread misinformation. You are not allowed to spread the truth if it discourages people from taking the vaccines. This is classic Orwellian "Doublethink".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink
16 Jul 21
@metal-brain said“If the vaccines don't completely stop transmission, it will increase the amount of people we need to vaccinate to truly cross the herd immunity thresholds and drive down cases to somewhere near zero,"
From the link I provided in my OP:
“If the vaccines don't completely stop transmission, it will increase the amount of people we need to vaccinate to truly cross the herd immunity thresholds and drive down cases to somewhere near zero,"
You branch covidians have an uphill battle and you pretend you are not concerned with numbers. Remember when Fauci lied about those ...[text shortened]... the vaccines. This is classic Orwellian "Doublethink".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink
yeah, that was always the bloody case. Vaccinate as many as possible to achieve herd immunity, not have some asholes depend on a magical 100% effective vaccine so they can refuse to get vaccinated.
"You branch covidians have an uphill battle and you pretend you are not concerned with numbers"
I don't pretend. I actually am not. I got vaccinated because it benefits me, it benefits others and I listen to actual experts instead of the loonies screaming at loonies about the dangers.
"Remember when Fauci lied about those numbers? Said he didn't think people were ready for the truth yet."
You really should get over Fauci.
"Fauci is allowed to spread misinformation"
No he is not. We would point out any misinformation he spreads. Any REAL case of misinformation. Not some instance where you didn't understand him or he didn't say all the details you wanted or simply because that was the information he had at the time and it proved to be false.
"You are not allowed to spread the truth if it discourages people from taking the vaccines"
Who the fuk is stopping you? Are you writing this while on the run from the US government, from some third world country with no extradition treaty?
Now, if by "allowed to spread the truth" means I am not allowed to make fun of your dumb you can kindly go love yourself.
By all means, keep making these threads. We'll keep mocking you and that will be how we spend our days. By know you must know most don't even bother to click on your links. We don't need the youtube algorithm to think we suddenly fancy conspiracy theories and bombard us with more nonsense.
@metal-brain saidSo. You spout off again about Fauci lying.
From the link I provided in my OP:
“If the vaccines don't completely stop transmission, it will increase the amount of people we need to vaccinate to truly cross the herd immunity thresholds and drive down cases to somewhere near zero,"
You branch covidians have an uphill battle and you pretend you are not concerned with numbers. Remember when Fauci lied about those ...[text shortened]... the vaccines. This is classic Orwellian "Doublethink".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink
Isn't it entirely possible that even the best minds can be mistaken ?
Isn't this pandemic accompanied by a learning curve ?
This is something completely new.
These vaccines aren't perfect. So we rely on statistics to determine that proceeding with vaccination is better than not proceeding.
And downplaying the virus is worse than taking it seriously.
This is based on the knowledge we have acquired about this virus.
Six months or a year from now, we will know more than we know today.
And meatballs like you will still be hurling accusations of lying around this and other forums.
I suppose you can haul Isaac Newton out of his grave and call him a liar because Einstein went one better than him.
Yup. You guys are that stupid !!!
The point is that you do not know who is a candidate for being a person who can give COVID to another person.
The belief that people who get vaccinated should be treated as if they cannot transmit COVID is false. There must be a different reason why they are trying to make it that only people who get vaccinated can live a normal life.
16 Jul 21
@zahlanzi said"Fauci is allowed to spread misinformation"
“If the vaccines don't completely stop transmission, it will increase the amount of people we need to vaccinate to truly cross the herd immunity thresholds and drive down cases to somewhere near zero,"
yeah, that was always the bloody case. Vaccinate as many as possible to achieve herd immunity, not have some asholes depend on a magical 100% effective vaccine so they can re ...[text shortened]... youtube algorithm to think we suddenly fancy conspiracy theories and bombard us with more nonsense.
No he is not. We would point out any misinformation he spreads. Any REAL case of misinformation. Not some instance where you didn't understand him or he didn't say all the details you wanted or simply because that was the information he had at the time and it proved to be false."
He said masks do not protect you from Covid and do more harm than good, then admitted he lied. Which time he lied is debatable, but the lie was admitted by Fauci. He said he wanted to protect health care workers at the expense of the general public.
&t=10s
16 Jul 21
@mghrn55 saidWhat about Iran? Can't they be mistaken? Why did Biden censor 33 Iran news websites? Why is our country putting out disinformation just fine and just, but Iran doing it is unacceptable?
So. You spout off again about Fauci lying.
Isn't it entirely possible that even the best minds can be mistaken ?
Isn't this pandemic accompanied by a learning curve ?
This is something completely new.
These vaccines aren't perfect. So we rely on statistics to determine that proceeding with vaccination is better than not proceeding.
And downplaying the virus is worse than ...[text shortened]... ve and call him a liar because Einstein went one better than him.
Yup. You guys are that stupid !!!
Why the double standard?
16 Jul 21
@metal-brain saidVACCINES DO NOT STOP PEOPLE GETTING INFECTED!
There's no evidence that any of the current Covid-19 vaccines can completely stop people from being infected – and this has implications for our prospects of achieving herd immunity.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210203-why-vaccinated-people-may-still-be-able-to-spread-covid-19
There you go. Live from there.
16 Jul 21
@shavixmir saidAnd vaccines do not prevent people from spreading covid.
VACCINES DO NOT STOP PEOPLE GETTING INFECTED!
There you go. Live from there.
16 Jul 21
@metal-brain saidI don't care about Iran.
What about Iran? Can't they be mistaken? Why did Biden censor 33 Iran news websites? Why is our country putting out disinformation just fine and just, but Iran doing it is unacceptable?
Why the double standard?
I follow statistics that...
Reveal that of all deaths in the US in June, 99.2% were unvaccinated.
In LA, 100% of all new hospitalizations were unvaccinated.
I have to wonder what your end game is in keeping at your drivel in this forum.
What are you after ? What is your holy grail here.
At what point do you look back at all your posting (almost 7/24 for months on end) and say to yourself "Mission accomplished".
You are on a mission, aren't you ?? 🤔