Originally posted by shavixmirThis is clearly not the whole of the story. The Yanks give 4 billion dollars a year in military aid to Israel. How does this gain the Yanks oil?
What utter nonsense.
Christians give more money to the Republicans and the democrats than jews do.
The imperialistic aim is to control oil, obviously.
And you have heard of it. Sometimes it's referred to as "Regime change". Other times it's financing dodgy dictators (Saddam and Musharev for example).
The US is now what England, Holland, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium were 100 years ago.
Nothing will ever change ever. Palestinians will blow up some bombs or launch some katyushkas at Israel and the Israelis will launch missiles or air strikes at Palestinians. The hatred runs too deep, been this way for 3000 years.
Neither side will ever budge till the whole of the middle east is a glowing, smoking hole in the earth.
Originally posted by spruce112358How can Israel have peace when every faction from Hezbollah to Hamas has pledged to drive the Jews to the sea. Why aren't you getting on Jordan's behind? King Hussein killed more Palestinians than Israel has.
"Israel, the U.S. and other Western countries have demanded that Hamas renounce violence, recognize Israel and accept existing peace deals as conditions for lifting the sanctions."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_unity_government_4
1) What other country in the world has "renounced" violence? Bhutan maybe? All other ...[text shortened]... en they say, "until all attacks cease, we will not relinquish control."
Discuss.
Originally posted by lordhighgus3000 years? Your history knowledge is a bit out.
Nothing will ever change ever. Palestinians will blow up some bombs or launch some katyushkas at Israel and the Israelis will launch missiles or air strikes at Palestinians. The hatred runs too deep, been this way for 3000 years.
Neither side will ever budge till the whole of the middle east is a glowing, smoking hole in the earth.
Originally posted by Ian68???
3000 years? Your history knowledge is a bit out.
How is that Ian?
Have not the Jews and the Palestinians been fighting for ever. Judea was fighting everyone in the old testament. Syria, Jordan and Egypt were always at war with them.
Nothing will change unless they agree to have a third, un-related religion (Hindu, Bhuddist or Shinto) interpose themselves as a neutral military force.
Originally posted by lordhighgusWhat does Syria, Jordan and Egypt have to do with Palestinians. Palestinians come from Palestine, or as it was known prior to Roman occupation Judea & Israel.
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How is that Ian?
Have not the Jews and the Palestinians been fighting for ever. Judea was fighting everyone in the old testament. Syria, Jordan and Egypt were always at war with them.
Nothing will change unless they agree to have a third, un-related religion (Hindu, Bhuddist or Shinto) interpose themselves as a neutral military force.
Originally posted by XanthosNZCan you find transcripts on the net? Would like to read a balanced view. They both perpetrate atrocities on each other, i cannot forsee an end to the violence cycle.
I suggest reading some of Robert Fisk's accounts and discussions of the Israel/Palestine conflict (war?). He is a balanced observer who has been there for many years. Who better to give you insight into how and why things are happening?
Originally posted by slimjimIsrael has the strongest military in the region and nuclear weapons. No one in the world can "throw them into the sea." That's just rhetoric.
How can Israel have peace when every faction from Hezbollah to Hamas has pledged to drive the Jews to the sea. Why aren't you getting on Jordan's behind? King Hussein killed more Palestinians than Israel has.
Jordan currently has over a million Palestinian refugees, defined as "a person whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict." So I'm not sure what you mean.
Israel has another strong ally in the US -- Christian evangelicals:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/14/news/israel.php
Of course, a lot of Americans think those guys are nuts with bad hairdos. But they have a political movement going.