The Empire Journal and the Terri Schiavo case

Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
Let the woman die with what little dignity she has left. That is all we have in the end. Please quit arguing for selfish reasons.

RTh

Your selfish or mine?

She never wrote down what she wanted. I have.

Have you?

So you think that a killer... if he is clever -- deserves his day in the sun?

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Your selfish or mine?

She never wrote down what she wanted. I have.

Have you?

So you think that a killer... if he is clever -- deserves his day in the sun?

Everyone I know knows my wishes. I have a living will so you wont see me in the headlines.

So you think he is a murderer?

I guess you should call someone because he should go to jail, eh?

RTh

Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
Everyone I know knows my wishes. I have a living will so you wont see me in the headlines.

So you think he is a murderer?

I guess you should call someone because he should go to jail, eh?

RTh

Yea.

The problem is that the only reason I "know" this is because I can and did hack several databases.

That ain't nice. Besides... the real facts are on the internet for anyone who isn't just a chimp like you trying to gain points with the "big boys".

Good luck. I eat big boys for snacks. Ass kisser.

Originally posted by ivanhoe
http://www.theempirejournal.com/98981_terri_schiavo_could_be_sec.htm


"Five years ago this month, Terri Schindler Schiavo was moved from the Palm Gardens Nursing Home in Largo, Fl., to the Woodside Hospice House in Pinellas Park on orders of her estranged husband without the knowledge of her parents and without court order.

A hospice is a facility or ...[text shortened]... g in this case."


http://www.theempirejournal.com/98981_terri_schiavo_could_be_sec.htm

The New England Journal of Medicine has two articles devoted to the Schiavo case.

Here is a discussion of the medical issues:

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/reprint/NEJMp058062.pdf

Here is a discussion of the legal issues:

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/reprint/NEJMlim050643.pdf

I invite Ivanhoe, Kelly Jay and others to read both these articles.

Schiavo is PVS, her cerebrum is destroyed, her EEG's are flat, indicating no activity of the cerebral cortex. She cannot think, she cannot feel, she is completely without consciousness, non-sentient, without awareness, not the subject of phenomenal states, there is 'nothing it is like' to be Terri Schiavo, just as there is 'nothing it is like' to be a table or a chair. She has no interests, no hopes or fears or desires or goals. Nothing can go better or worse for Schiavo from Schiavo's point of view, because she has no point of view.

Originally posted by bbarr
The New England Journal of Medicine has two articles devoted to the Schiavo case.

Here is a discussion of the medical issues:

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/reprint/NEJMp058062.pdf

Here is a discussion of the legal issues:

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/reprint/NEJMlim050643.pdf

I invite Ivanhoe, Kelly Jay and others to read both these articles.
...[text shortened]... go better or worse for Schiavo from Schiavo's point of view, because she has no point of view.

I thought I allready reacted to that post in another thread. Maybe you can answer the question I asked in that thread.