Originally posted by Feivel
Questionable in your eyes but in any event NOT plagerism. What is sad is that a supposedly intelligent human can't understand what [b]stay on topic means. Would you like me to translate that into another language for you?
Feivel[/b]
So as not to cause poor Feivel to have another spluttering conniption due to my posting OT again, I am posting this as a new thread. 😉
It's easy to cut and paste while surfing the web. The medium almost encourages it. But when you copy someone else's writing, give the author credit!
I know what your are thinking: this is a casual forum - the technicalities don't apply. Well you're wrong. You can still be sued (even if that's unlikely). And, it's a matter of ethics. Copying someone else's stuff and posting it somewhere else is stealing unless you give them full credit.
To help you out, I found a good article on plagiarism. There are many others online (clearly it's a big issue on the net).
http://www.usm.maine.edu/~kuzma/Ideologies/Plagerism.html
Here's a few quotes to consider:
USM SOCIAL SCIENCE GUIDE TO PLAGIARISM AND REFERENCING*Besides the fact that it is unethical, and technically illegal, there's another reason not plagiarize. In fact, it's a good reason for not pasting whole articles even with proper credit. You may look like an idiot - like you can't think for yourself.
To plagiarize is to steal and use (the ideas or writings of another) as one's own (American Heritage Dictionary, 1973:1001). Legally, plagiarism has been defined as the act of appropriating the literary composition of another, or parts or passages of his/her writings, or language of the same, and passing them off as the product of one's own mind (O=Rourke v. RKO Radio Pictures: 483). The student should note that neither of these definitions includes intention or motivation--it is the act itself which constitutes plagiarism. Ignorance, naiveté or sloppiness is no excuse.
When you repeat a passage or statement, word for word, you are quoting another person. When you reproduce without acknowledging that you have done so and from whom, you have plagiarized another person's work. Quotations must be designated as such, generally by placing quotation marks around the repeated statement. All quotations must be repeated exactly, and cited exactly, giving all the appropriate information concerning who said it, where, and where you found it. To avoid plagiarism, you must include both the quotation marks and the citation.
Put another way, the act of plagiarism is a form of theft (taking of ideas) and a form of fraud (misrepresentation). You should remember that ideas and creativity are as valuable as tangible property. Simply put, the rule is to give credit where credit is due.
I'm not saying every idea you have needs to be original, but you should be able to formulate those ideas you agree with in you own words. And making the effort to do so is good for your thinking! If you have trouble putting it in your own words, maybe it because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
If you really want to start an intelligent conversation in a new thread - consider starting the thread with your own (words), not someone else's.
Now, if you find a really good article you want to share with the rest of the class 😉, please do post a URL address and maybe quote some section you find most interesting. Don't just snatch it up and past a +2000 word essay that someone else wrote.
If you've got an essay that you want to post that YOU wrote, I think that's great. Please do post it. Maybe you'll get some good feedback, or some heated criticism. Either way, you can learn from it.
'That is all.'
coletti
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BTW. To quote some text in your post, put it between [ quote ] the stuff you want to quote goes here, no marks needed this way [ /quote ]. (Take out the spaces on both sides of quote.) Look at the quote section of a reply before you post it to see what I mean. All that's missing is the [ quote ] markup.
P.S. If you ever catch me failing to credit my quotes, feel free to smack me. 🙂 Just because I'm not perfect is no excuse.
Having to resort to pasting someone else's material into your argument
on a regular basis is pretty lame, especially when it constitutes the majority
of what you have to say.
And to not even give credit to the original author is
dispicable and a disgrace. Any Ivory Tower faculty member
caught engaging in this practice would be severely
reprimanded, chastised, and publicly embarassed.
Even RBHILL, reposter extraodinaire, cites his sources.
Dr. Cribs
It's easy to cut and paste while surfing the web. The medium almost encourages it. But when you copy someone else's writing, give the author credit!
I know what your are thinking: this is a casual forum - the technicalities don't apply. Well you're wrong. You can still be sued (even if that's unlikely). And, it's a matter of ethics. Copying someone else's stuff and posting it somewhere else is stealing unless you give them full credit.
Down with plagiarism.
😉
Originally posted by royalchickenLet us all now surround royalchicken for the public humiliation
It's easy to cut and paste while surfing the web. The medium almost encourages it. But when you copy someone else's writing, give the author credit!
I know what your are thinking: this is a casual forum - the technicalities don't apply. Well you're wrong. You can still be sued (even if that's unlikely). And, it's a matter of ethics. Copying so ...[text shortened]... g it somewhere else is stealing unless you give them full credit.
Down with plagiarism.
😉
that he so deserves. On such a simple subject, one would think
that a Professor of Arcana, adjunct or otherwise, could at least
formulate his own coherent opinion on the matter. Short of that,
he could at least cite someone else's intelligent opinion. But
this is an act of a coward - a straightforward repost of somebody
else's thoughts without any personal commentary or so much
as a respectful citation.
Let the finger pointing begin!
royalchicken <-----
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Originally posted by CribsUhm, the clan need an Icon of Irony before we go straight to hell.
Let us all now surround royalchicken for the public humiliation
that he so deserves. On such a simple subject, one would think
that a Professor of Arcana, adjunct or otherwise, could at least
formulate his own coherent opinion on the matter. Short of that,
he could at least cite someone else's intelligent opinion. But
this is an act of a coward - a st ...[text shortened]... finger pointing begin!
royalchicken <-----
royalchicken <-----
royalchicken <-----
Originally posted by royalchickenI think RWillis would serve well. What could represent
Uhm, the clan need an Icon of Irony before we go straight to hell.
irony better than a leader of the Freethinkers who
prohibits his members to entertain the thought of
polyclanism?
Unfortunately, he has already declined.
Originally posted by CribsBut Cribs, you are mistaken. If I prohibit my members from joining other clans, as you claim, then how does it come to pass that I have 3 members who are in other clans? If you had cared to verify your claim before making it public, you would have found that 15% of the Freethinkers belong to two clans. Hmmm...maybe RBHill and his gang are right, maybe you logicians DO rely on faith rather than empirical evidence to bolster your spurious claims.
I think RWillis would serve well. What could represent
irony better than a leader of the Freethinkers who
prohibits his members to entertain the thought of
polyclanism?
Unfortunately, he has already declined.
Originally posted by rwingettWell, strictly speaking logic does have more to do with faith--in axioms--than it does with empirical evidence.
But Cribs, you are mistaken. If I prohibit my members from joining other clans, as you claim, then how does it come to pass that I have 3 members who are in other clans? If you had cared to verify your claim before making it public, you would have found that 15% of the Freethinkers belong to two clans. Hmmm...maybe RBHill and his gang are right, maybe you logicians DO rely on faith rather than empirical evidence to bolster your spurious claims.
Originally posted by rwingettI stand corrected and hereby apologize for my sloppy claim.
But Cribs, you are mistaken. If I prohibit my members from joining other clans, as you claim, then how does it come to pass that I have 3 members who are in other clans? If you had cared to verify your claim before making it public, you would have found that 15% of the Freethinkers belong to two clans. Hmmm...maybe RBHill and his gang are right, maybe you logicians DO rely on faith rather than empirical evidence to bolster your spurious claims.
It was based on rumor and common perception rather than fact.
Would it really hurt to have 4 polyclanners? After all, those
who make the rules have first dibs on breaking them.
Dr. Cribs
Originally posted by royalchickenIt's easy to cut and paste while surfing the web. The medium almost encourages it. But when you copy someone else's writing, give the author credit!
It's easy to cut and paste while surfing the web. The medium almost encourages it. But when you copy someone else's writing, give the author credit!
I know what your are thinking: this is a casual forum - the technicalities don't apply. Well you're wrong. You can still be sued (even if that's unlikely). And, it's a matter of ethics. Copying so ...[text shortened]... g it somewhere else is stealing unless you give them full credit.
Down with plagiarism.
😉
I know what your are thinking: this is a casual forum - the technicalities don't apply. Well you're wrong. You can still be sued (even if that's unlikely). And, it's a matter of ethics. Copying someone else's stuff and posting it somewhere else is stealing unless you give them full credit.
Down with plagiarism.
Originally posted by ianpickeringOh, this is an interesting situation here...
It's easy to cut and paste while surfing the web. The medium almost encourages it. But when you copy someone else's writing, give the author credit!
I know what your are thinking: this is a casual forum - the technicalities don't apply. Well you're wrong. You can still be sued (even if that's unlikely). And, it's a matter of ethics. Copying som ...[text shortened]... posting it somewhere else is stealing unless you give them full credit.
Down with plagiarism.
For any lawyers here, could royalchicken prosecute a copyright
claim in this instance, since somebody swiped his work, even
though royal swiped it from another party in the first place?
Or could that original party prosecute a claim against ian, even
though ian swiped it from an intermediary?
Assume that these were real works of literature rather than
just silly forum posts.
Dr. Cribs
Originally posted by royalchicken
It's easy to cut and paste while surfing the web. The medium almost encourages it. But when you copy someone else's writing, give the author credit!
I know what your are thinking: this is a casual forum - the technicalities don't apply. Well you're wrong. You can still be sued (even if that's unlikely). And, it's a matter of ethics. Copying so ...[text shortened]... g it somewhere else is stealing unless you give them full credit.
Down with plagiarism.
Oh, this is an interesting situation here...
For any lawyers here, could royalchicken prosecute a copyright
claim in this instance, since somebody swiped his work, even
though royal swiped it from another party in the first place?
Or could that original party prosecute a claim against ian, even
though ian swiped it from an intermediary?
Assume that these were real works of literature rather than
just silly forum posts.
Dr. rapalla7