The growing US brain drain

@AThousandYoung said
RFK Jr is pretty stupid.

He's got degrees from four different universities including a doctorate, What do you have to brag about?

@Cliff-Mashburn said
He's got degrees from four different universities including a doctorate, What do you have to brag about?

You've always been quick to disregard Dr Martin Luther King Jr's doctorate. You also love to call liberal university professors stupid. Why the double standard?

But ok you have a good point. Can't be stupid to get through that much school. I could see nepotism getting a person some unearned education but not as much as he has. I withdraw the remark.

I'll rephrase: RPF Jr's legal education has in no way improved his dismal ignorance about scientific matters.

@AThousandYoung said
You've always been quick to disregard Dr Martin Luther King Jr's doctorate. You also love to call liberal university professors stupid. Why the double standard?

But ok you have a good point. Can't be stupid to get through that much school. I could see nepotism getting a person some unearned education but not as much as he has. I withdraw the remark.

I'll rephrase: RPF Jr's legal education has in no way improved his dismal ignorance about scientific matters.

OMG you really live in a weird bubble where you imagine all kinds of garbage. I've never said anything about King or his college degrees.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
OMG you really live in a weird bubble where you imagine all kinds of garbage. I've never said anything about King or his college degrees.

Apparently you're losing your memory because you forget Sam the Sham accused King of plagiarizing all his work.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
She is NOT an illegal alien and she speaks FIVE lanuages, her IQ is probably far above yours.

Trump is doing his damnest to change the law so that people like her will never again be able to become Americans the way she did.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
She is NOT an illegal alien and she speaks FIVE lanuages, her IQ is probably far above yours.

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The Associated Press is reporting that Melania Trump accepted 10 modeling jobs in the US after entering on a tourist visa in 1996. Melania Trump, through her lawyer, claims she began work on H-1B status on October 18, 1996.

What does this mean? First, it confirms what many lawyers – including myself – were noting last spring when Politico, Univision and other news outlets initially questioned Melania’s immigration history. The story largely quieted after the Trumps’ current immigration lawyer, Michael Wildes, insisted that he had reviewed Melania’s immigration documents and her history and assured the public that she had always complied with the law. Melania had also promised at that time to hold a press conference and release documents proving she always maintained her immigration status.

However, no documents were ever released. And few questions were asked after this.

To be honest, I thought journalists had given up too quickly on the story, but like the tax returns, there wasn’t much that could be done since reporters aren’t entitled to view the documents under the Freedom of Information Act.

There are several issues that come to mind, some of which have no clear answers yet.

First, did Melania really begin work on an H-1B visa in October 1996? That’s the date that was offered by the Trumps. But they’ve never documented this so we only have their word. Of course, they insisted there was no illegal work so why we should trust them on the start date for an H-1B – or even if she ever had an H-1B?

Second, Michael Wildes said Melania got an H-1B visa on October 18th at the Slovenian consulate. It’s not clear why she didn’t file to change to an H-1B status in the US instead of going to a consulate. She may have actually been smart to leave the US to get the H-1B visa because her next entry on an H-1B visa would have been legal. That would at least avoided lying on a change of status application. However, it is very possible that Melania’s illegal work would have come up in her consular application. So visa fraud is still a question mark.

Third, October 18th is a strange start date for the H-1B. The H-1B cap did not run out for the fiscal year that ended September 30, 1996. In fact, only 48,000 H-1Bs were used that year. https://visalaw.com/state-department-visa-numbers-for-october-1996 This means Melania COULD have gotten an H-1B visa for the dates in question, but for some reason she and her employer chose not to.

Fourth, we still have no idea how Melania converted to permanent residency. Michael Wildes said in 2000 she filed for a green card in the EB-1 category. No evidence of this has ever been produced and Wildes had earlier indicated Melania got the green card through an earlier marriage. This is still a mystery. But Melania would have been required to list her work history for the prior five years so if she failed to list the illegal work, she potentially engaged in visa fraud and USCIS could reopen both her green card and her subsequent citizenship application and potentially reverse. And this, in theory, would make Mrs. Trump potentially at risk of being deported. Keep in mind that if Melania had a decent lawyer, he or she might have counseled her to disclose the illegal work because under Section 245K of the Immigration and Nationality Act, she would still have been eligible for the green card. It’s the lie that is the problem, not the illegal work. Of course, this is all assuming that the information provided by the Trumps and Michael Wildes is true.

All in all, now that the AP has blown a hole in Melania’s immigration story and because the Trumps never provided the documents despite their promise to do so, it’s really too late to address this before the election. The Trumps have only themselves to blame.

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source

https://www.visalaw.com/my-take-on-the-ap-story-on-melanias-illegal-work-in-the-us/


The claim that she speaks five languages is a stretch. Everyone from the former Yugoslavia speaks several closely-related languages: Serbian, Croat, Bosnian, Slovene, and/or Macedonian. That's not a sign of high IQ--just upbringing in a multi-cultural setting.

Everyone in Switzerland also speaks three or four--not because the Swiss are more intelligent than people in Italy or France, but because the country has four official national languages, plus English as the most likely choice-subject in schools.

PS My IQ is not the subject of this thread.

@AThousandYoung said
By the way this thread is about the hard sciences, not how well you know US law or how many languages you speak. Just a reminder.

Demographics are against the Republican party. People with some level of college education vote significantly not Republican--they do not all vote Democrat, however. They may vote Independent or not at all, but several polls have confirmed that they do not vote Republican. Republicans who look at polls and don't immediately discount them, know this, and the brain drain is part of a strategy to maintain power with a dwindling voter base.

It also explains why Republicans hate the idea of forgiving student loan debt. It's not about money, much less than what Trump squandered on bombarding Iran. It's about keeping the public stupid, deliberately.

@moonbus said
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The Associated Press is reporting that Melania Trump accepted 10 modeling jobs in the US after entering on a tourist visa in 1996. Melania Trump, through her lawyer, claims she began work on H-1B status on October 18, 1996.

What does this mean? First, it confirms what many lawyers – including myself – were noting last spring when Politico, Univision and other news ...[text shortened]... English as the most likely choice-subject in schools.

PS My IQ is not the subject of this thread.

Jesus....get a life.

@AThousandYoung said
Trump is doing his damnest to change the law so that people like her will never again be able to become Americans the way she did.

... and her parents.

@Cliff-Mashburn said

We got people living here for 20+ years that STILL don't speak English and their kids born here are barely proficient at it even as teens.

That's just "the way it is" in the deep redneck (Trumpublican) South.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
Seems like the stupification of America is more of a Democrat plan since they let in at least 12 million low IQ illegals that we know of, and probably a whole lot more.

Something like 60% of people who live in Appalachia can't read at an 8th grade level.

Those are all born and raised US citizens. Ain't nothin' a few Spaniards can do about it.

@wildgrass said
Something like 60% of people who live in Appalachia can't read at an 8th grade level.

Those are all born and raised US citizens. Ain't nothin' a few Spaniards can do about it.

Meanwhile in LA, Baltimore, New York, Detroit, Chicago, they can't read at a 3rd grade level.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
Meanwhile in LA, Baltimore, New York, Detroit, Chicago, they can't read at a 3rd grade level.

The immigrants aren't the dumb ones is my point.