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Dictator Hugo Chavez has been accused of stealing hundreds of tons of food from a private company. Just another day in the life of a man running his once-prosperous country into the ground.

The director of Alimentos Polar, the nation's biggest food distributor and one of the largest private employers in Venezuela, has told reporters that troops stopped 27 of the company's trucks over three days this week and seized more than 500 tons of food:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=286070344119701

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Dictator Hugo Chavez has been accused of stealing hundreds of tons of food from a private company. Just another day in the life of a man running his once-prosperous country into the ground.

The director of Alimentos Polar, the nation's biggest food distributor and one of the largest private employers in Venezuela, has told reporters that troop ...[text shortened]... ore than 500 tons of food:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=286070344119701
It's like you live on a completely different world to the rest of us.

1. Hugo Chavez was elected. How come you think he's a dictator?

2. Nationalisation and redistribution of resources isn't theft, is it? But then again, you'd probably have Robin Hood hanged, drawn and quartered too.

Here you go:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-12-03-chavez-election_x.htm

See what it says? WON THE ELECTION BY A WIDE MARGIN.
And in Mr. Weller's famous words: "The public gets what the public wants."

I don't know where you dig this right-wing rubbish up from, but an article that starts by claiming Chavez is a dictator is already suspect and not worth reading.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
It's like you live on a completely different world to the rest of us.

1. Hugo Chavez was elected. How come you think he's a dictator?

2. Nationalisation and redistribution of resources isn't theft, is it? But then again, you'd probably have Robin Hood hanged, drawn and quartered too.

Here you go:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-12-03-cha ...[text shortened]... e that starts by claiming Chavez is a dictator is already suspect and not worth reading.
You're the one who lives in a bizzaro universe -- one where you think socialism actually works. As far as referring to Senor Chavez as a "dictator," I think everyone would agree that he passes the smell test.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
You're the one who lives in a bizzaro universe -- one where you think socialism actually works. As far as referring to Senor Chavez as a "dictator," I think everyone would agree that he passes the smell test.
As far as I know the only elections being stolen in the Americas is the US election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._presidential_election_controversy_and_irregularities

Which surely makes Bush the dictator then?

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Originally posted by shavixmir
It's like you live on a completely different world to the rest of us.

1. Hugo Chavez was elected. How come you think he's a dictator?

2. Nationalisation and redistribution of resources isn't theft, is it? But then again, you'd probably have Robin Hood hanged, drawn and quartered too.

Here you go:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-12-03-cha ...[text shortened]... e that starts by claiming Chavez is a dictator is already suspect and not worth reading.
Shav, I think you are confusing 2 issues. Being the popular vote does not give a president the right to act independently and without consultation. A duly elected leader must still act in acordance with the wishes of the electorate and if he does not, then he is a dictator.

One eg .. Chavez has removed / limited the freedom of the press. Do you think that the electorate supported that? If not then the man is a dicatator.

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Originally posted by Rajk999
Shav, I think you are confusing 2 issues. Being the popular vote does not give a president the right to act independently and without consultation. A duly elected leader must still act in acordance with the wishes of the electorate and if he does not, then he is a dictator.

One eg .. Chavez has removed / limited the freedom of the press. Do you think that the electorate supported that? If not then the man is a dicatator.
you mean the way the bush admin. has removed some of the rights of US citizens?

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Originally posted by duecer
you mean the way the bush admin. has removed some of the rights of US citizens?
I really wish jaded liberals like you could live outside the United States and experience fascism, communism, socialism and totalitarianism up close and personal. Then you would know the difference and quit making fools of yourselves every time you inappropriately bandy about these terms.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I really wish jaded liberals like you could live outside the United States and experience fascism, communism, socialism and totalitarianism up close and personal. Then you would know the difference and quit making fools of yourselves every time you inappropriately bandy about these terms.
Yeah.... oh the nasty free health care in England and those pesky 5 weeks a year paid holiday in France...

Damn them all to hell those evil socialists.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I really wish jaded liberals like you could live outside the United States and experience fascism, communism, socialism and totalitarianism up close and personal. Then you would know the difference and quit making fools of yourselves every time you inappropriately bandy about these terms.
I lived overseas for 4 1/2 years.You?

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Originally posted by shavixmir
As far as I know the only elections being stolen in the Americas is the US election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._presidential_election_controversy_and_irregularities

Which surely makes Bush the dictator then?
You idiot! The voter fraud and attempt to steal the election was perpetrated by Democrats, including people ACORN had fraudulently registered, New Yorkers who live six months out of the year in Florida and vote in both state's elections, illegal immigrants, ex-cons, etc.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
You idiot! The voter fraud and attempt to steal the election was perpetrated by Democrats, including people ACORN had fraudulently registered, New Yorkers who live six months out of the year in Florida and vote in both state's elections, illegal immigrants, ex-cons, etc.
hey... whatever helps you sleep at night

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
You idiot! The voter fraud and attempt to steal the election was perpetrated by Democrats, including people ACORN had fraudulently registered, New Yorkers who live six months out of the year in Florida and vote in both state's elections, illegal immigrants, ex-cons, etc.
No it's not.

Go to Greg Palast's website and sniff around.
You can cry on our shoulders when you're done.

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Originally posted by duecer
I lived overseas for 4 1/2 years.You?
I don't disparage my homeland; in fact, I appreciate every day the fact that I live in a free and prosperous country that has a rule of law and economic freedom. But I do know about living in a foreign country -- I've been to San Antonio and Miami many times.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
No it's not.

Go to Greg Palast's website and sniff around.
You can cry on our shoulders when you're done.
I love his articles, he pulls no punches.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I don't disparage my homeland; in fact, I appreciate every day the fact that I live in a free and prosperous country that has a rule of law and economic freedom. But I do know about living in a foreign country -- I've been to San Antonio and Miami many times.
just what i thought, you have nothing to compare.

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