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Originally posted by duecer
just what i thought, you have nothing to compare.
Where did you live, on a U.S. military base?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Where did you live, on a U.S. military base?
for 3 years, then i lived in and worked for 1 1/2 years as a civilian.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Where did you live, on a U.S. military base?

Originally posted by duecer
for 3 years, then i lived in and worked for 1 1/2 years as a civilian.
Which country were you spyin…err – working for those 4 ½ years. Certainly you have no love for your own.

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Originally posted by MacSwain
Which country were you spyin…err – working for those 4 ½ years. Certainly you have no love for your own.
*giggle*

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Originally posted by shavixmir
It's like you live on a completely different world to the rest of us.
fyi- the media in the US routinely portrays Chavez as a dictator. He is usually described as a "Socialist Dictator". Even educated Americans mostly believe that Venezuela is under a dictatorship, because that's what our media echo chamber echos.

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Originally posted by Darth Sponge
fyi- the media in the US routinely portrays Chavez as a dictator. He is usually described as a "Socialist Dictator". Even educated Americans mostly believe that Venezuela is under a dictatorship, because that's what our media echo chamber echos.
Why don't you ask all the Venezuelans living abroad what they think of Chavez?. "Dictator" is the charitable appellation they use in public; what they say privately can not be printed here. My brother-in-law had his property confiscated and was not remunerated by Chavez. He owned several buildings in Caracas and the dictator just took them. You can imagine that anyone who is productive, clever or hardworking is trying to spirit out as much of their wealth from the Venezuela as fast as they can. Currently, there's a huge influx of Venezuelans to Miami that is driving up the cost of housing there. Venezuelans are wonderful people, Chavez though, is another story.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Why don't you ask all the Venezuelans living abroad what they think of Chavez?. "Dictator" is the charitable appellation they use in public; what they say privately can not be printed here. My brother-in-law had his property confiscated and was not remunerated by Chavez. He owned several buildings in Caracas and the dictator just took them. You c ...[text shortened]... he cost of housing there. Venezuelans are wonderful people, Chavez though, is another story.
Chavez is a socialist, elected democratically. I think you disagree with his socialism, and then attribute "dictatorship" to him. It's a complicated situation that the US media does little to elucidate. Chavez is trying to empower people who have nothing, at the expense of those who have much. You may disagree with that aim, but the fact is that he is still a democratically elected official, so at least some venezuelans must like him.

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Originally posted by Darth Sponge
Chavez is a socialist, elected democratically. I think you disagree with his socialism, and then attribute "dictatorship" to him. It's a complicated situation that the US media does little to elucidate. Chavez is trying to empower people who have nothing, at the expense of those who have much. You may disagree with that aim, but the fact is that he is still a democratically elected official, so at least some venezuelans must like him.
where would Socialists get their money if those who had much stopped having much?

F. GRANNY.

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Originally posted by smw6869
where would Socialists get their money if those who had much stopped having much?

F. GRANNY.
where and how did those who have much, get much? that part of the equation needs to be factored in.

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Originally posted by Darth Sponge
Chavez is trying to empower people who have nothing, at the expense of those who have much.
That is exactly the same noble claim behind Saloth Sar's 3 1/2 year reign in Cambodia.

It is not the noble "end" that's important, it is the "means" one uses to achieve it everyone should examine. Equality cannot be achieved by force, it only results in death.

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Originally posted by MacSwain
Which country were you spyin…err – working for those 4 ½ years. Certainly you have no love for your own.
I love my country more than you ever will. your problem is you only love yourself, and can't see that what is good for your fellow man is also good for you.

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I bet my dad can beat up your dad

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Originally posted by StTito
I bet my dad can beat up your dad
oh yeah?😠*dials phone* "hey dad! guess what...."


Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Dictator Hugo Chavez has been accused of stealing hundreds of tons of food from a private company. Just another day in the life of a man running his once-prosperous country into the ground.

The director of Alimentos Polar, the nation's biggest food distributor and one of the largest private employers in Venezuela, has told reporters that troop ...[text shortened]... ore than 500 tons of food:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=286070344119701
The Republican playbook is rather ... repetitive, isn't it?

Let's see:

Wake up
Blame something on Clinton
Demonise Chavez
Back anything Bush does
Complain about taxes
Crank up the Iranian threat
Praise economy
Cheerlead anything military
Dissemble or just lie if team is caught out lying / breaking law
Go to sleep

The thing is, is that you seem incapable - no matter what the evidence to the contrary - of doing anything other than what you've been conditioned to or lead to believe that's what a Conservative should do/say ... it's like Pavlov meets A Clockwork Orange.

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Originally posted by treetalk
it's like Pavlov meets A Clockwork Orange.
excellent!