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zeeblebot

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a new book, The Manchurian President, apparently says that Obama was well acquainted with ex-Weatherman William Ayers well before the fundraiser that he supposedly met Ayers at and the charity org meetings that they supposedly had minimal contact at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers_presidential_election_controversy#Interaction_between_Obama_and_Ayers

book author: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Klein

http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=0&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=manchurian+president

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http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-obama-ayers-meeting-what-you-havent-been-told-according-to-new-book-the-manchurian-president-92677859.html

'The Obama-Ayers Meeting: What You Haven't Been Told,' According to New Book: 'The Manchurian President'

'The Manchurian President' is the Most Exhaustive Investigation into Barack Obama's Background

New Book on Obama's Ties to Communists, Socialists and Other Anti-American Extremists, Soars on Amazon

WASHINGTON, May 3 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A new book released today uncovers for the first time where and how President Barack Obama first met Weather Underground terrorist-group founder William Ayers - and it is much earlier than previously believed.

The book, which has soared on Amazon, reveals the two were brought together by a student of radical community organizer Saul Alinsky, whose name, it has emerged, was obscured in Obama's autobiography "Dreams from My Father."

"The Manchurian President: Barack Obama's Ties to Communists, Socialists and other Anti-American Extremists," charges Obama has deep ties to an anti-American extremist nexus that has been instrumental not only in building his political career but in crafting current White House policy.

The book exposes an extremist coalition of communists, socialists and other radicals working both inside and outside the administration to draft and advance current White House policy goals.

With more than 800 citations, the brand new title from WND senior reporter and WABC Radio host Aaron Klein bills itself as the most exhaustive investigation ever performed into Obama's political background and radical ties. Klein's co-author is historian and researcher Brenda J. Elliott.

Shocking Obama-Ayers Connection

Of all Obama's radical associates from the past, few received more attention or were as shocking as his connection to Ayers.

Until now, it has been known Obama launched his political career at a 1995 fundraiser in Ayers' Chicago apartment and that the two served alongside each other from 1995 to 2000 on a hundred-million-dollar education foundation, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

Ayers was founder of the CAC; Obama was hired as the group's first chairman. CAC documents dug up during the 2008 presidential campaign revealed Ayers was in a working group of five who assembled the initial board of the CAC, which hired Obama. The documents also revealed Obama and Ayers had a working relationship at the CAC.

Obama would later cite his CAC position as evidence of his qualification for public office.

However, those probing Obama were left to speculate exactly how Ayers was so familiar with him that he hired the future politician for the CAC and hosted the 1995 fundraiser.

"The Manchurian President" reveals that Obama worked directly with Ayers in 1988 and that the two were brought together by a radical Alinsky acolyte who was trained by Alinsky himself.

The Weathermen founder earlier resurfaced after going underground amid multiple criminal charges related to his extremist activities. The charges were dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct.

In 1988, in response to a Chicago summit that documented the poor quality of education in the city, Chicago United, a group founded by Ayers' father, the late Thomas Ayers, formed a community advocacy coalition called the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools, or ABC. Thomas Ayers was the chairman and CEO of Commonwealth Edison.

When he created his ABCs Coalition in June 1988, Thomas Ayers included Obama in the coalition, Klein and Elliott found. Obama at the time was director and lead organizer of the Developing Communities Project, or DCP, an institutionally-based community organization on Chicago's Far South Side. Obama's first job in Chicago was his DCP position.

The contact for the ABCs Coalition, on which Obama served, was none other than Ayers himself, who at the time was at the University of Illinois at Chicago

Klein and Elliott found documentation, cited in "Manchurian," that Ayers started attending the ABCs Coalition's monthly meetings, held over breakfasts of eggs, sausages, rolls, fruit, and coffee in a conference room on the 57th floor of Chicago's First National Bank downtown headquarters.

Obama Disguised Alinsky Radical?

Obama, meanwhile, took his DCP job in 1985. In "Dreams from My Father," Obama relates his first job in Chicago as a community organizer and claims the name of his boss at DCP was "Marty Kaufman."

Kaufman, however, doesn't exist. The DCP chief at the time was actually Marty Kellman, who was trained by Alinsky himself, "The Manchurian President" documents.

Additionally, Klein and Elliott document the DCP, with Obama as director, received two grants. One grant was for $40,000 in 1985 and another for $33,000 in 1986 from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, a group that promoted Alinsky-style organizations, the book says.

Write Klein and Elliott: "There can be no doubt, then, that Obama and Ayers were well-acquainted by 1988, brought together through an acolyte of Alinsky.

"Perhaps this period serves as the missing link, providing background to understand how Ayers was so comfortable with Obama's capabilities that he later would hire the future politician to head the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, or CAC, a job Obama would in turn claim had qualified him to run for public office."

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-obama-ayers-meeting-what-you-havent-been-told-according-to-new-book-the-manchurian-president-92677859.html

'The Obama-Ayers Meeting: What You Haven't Been Told,' According to New Book: 'The Manchurian President'

'The Manchurian President' is the Most Exhaustive Investigation into Barack Obama's Background
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Its obvious Obama is a communist in desguise, and his true colors will be revealed through his policies.

some people will deny this, but its obvious they're either very disingenous or simply ignorant about all this.

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The Obama Truthers attack!

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Its obvious Obama is a communist in desguise, and his true colors will be revealed through his policies.

some people will deny this, but its obvious they're either very disingenous or simply ignorant about all this.
which do you think applies to Palynka? disingenuous or ignorant?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
which do you think applies to Palynka? disingenuous or ignorant?
probably the latter.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
probably the latter.
So I'm not a communist disguised as a sardine-eating, moustache-wearing Portuguese?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-obama-ayers-meeting-what-you-havent-been-told-according-to-new-book-the-manchurian-president-92677859.html

'The Obama-Ayers Meeting: What You Haven't Been Told,' According to New Book: 'The Manchurian President'

'The Manchurian President' is the Most Exhaustive Investigation into Barack Obama's Background
...[text shortened]... laim had qualified him to run for public office."

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much ado about Saul Alinsky.

It seems like EVERY protest movement today, no matter what it's ideology or demands, uses many or all of the tactics that Alinsky outlined.

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Originally posted by Palynka
So I'm not a communist disguised as a sardine-eating, moustache-wearing Portuguese?
appeal to ridicule.

I personally don't believe (or rather don't want to believe) obama is a communist or has links with extremists, but how can you explain all the stuff listed in the OP?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
appeal to ridicule.

I personally don't believe (or rather don't want to believe) obama is a communist or has links with extremists, but how can you explain all the stuff listed in the OP?
How is it an appeal to ridicule if I'm ridiculing myself? 🙄

What stuff? Do you know what the Chicago Annenberg Challenge is?

So what IF he collaborated with Ayers on a charity project? To go from this to full-blown infiltration conspiracy is ludicrous.

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Originally posted by Palynka
How is it an appeal to ridicule if I'm ridiculing myself? 🙄

What stuff? Do you know what the Chicago Annenberg Challenge is?

So what IF he collaborated with Ayers on a charity project? To go from this to full-blown infiltration conspiracy is ludicrous.
why are you being like this?

its obvious obama is a communist, and he is out to turn the USA into the USSA.

zeeblebot's link clearly proves this, so why deny it?

if there's a book about it it must be real.

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From the link

"Obama, meanwhile, took his DCP job in 1985. In "Dreams from My Father," Obama relates his first job in Chicago as a community organizer and claims the name of his boss at DCP was "Marty Kaufman."

Kaufman, however, doesn't exist"

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how can you explain this?!!??

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Originally posted by generalissimo
From the link

"Obama, meanwhile, took his DCP job in 1985. In "Dreams from My Father," Obama relates his first job in Chicago as a community organizer and claims the name of his boss at DCP was "Marty Kaufman."

Kaufman, however, doesn't exist"

😲

how can you explain this?!!??
*shrug*

Doesn't the book use fictional names?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_from_my_father

So why do you take this information at face value? Because it's in a book? Also, if anything they mean Jerry Kellman, not Marty Kellman.

Oh, my, they changed the name! It must be a conspiracy! LOL! And what's wrong with Jerry Kellman, anyway?

If you do community work in your area, you can bet you'll find some communists working with you or even organizing community actions. There's nothing wrong with working alongside with them for the benefit of a community. It's not like these were subversive communist propaganda.

Edit - (apologies if I missed your irony)

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Originally posted by Palynka
So I'm not a communist disguised as a sardine-eating, moustache-wearing Portuguese?
your avatar indicates the sardine has eaten the Portuguese and not the other way around.

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Originally posted by Palynka
*shrug*

Doesn't the book use fictional names?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_from_my_father

So why do you take this information at face value? Because it's in a book? Also, if anything they mean Jerry Kellman, not Marty Kellman.

Oh, my, they changed the name! It must be a conspiracy! LOL! And what's wrong with Jerry Kellman, anyway?

If yo ...[text shortened]... e these were subversive communist propaganda.

Edit - (apologies if I missed your irony)
Edit - (apologies if I missed your irony)

apology accepted.

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