While taking the profit of my counsel,
avail yourself also of any helpful circumstances
over and beyond the ordinary rules.
Accordingly as circumstances become favorable or unfavorable,
one should modify one's plans.
All warfare is based on deception.
from The Art Of War by SunTzu
Which side in the current war between Islam and the Infidels is taking best advantage? Why?
Perhaps this thread should have been titled 'The Current War'?
I will state up front that this is a ruse on my part to get some of you to try the 'there isn't any war' strategy. I need some way of segging into the definition of war, and a happless lefty is always a good tool. (see above)
Originally posted by StarValleyWyIf you take Sun Tzu's words as truth then your question is meaningless.
While taking the profit of my counsel,
avail yourself also of any helpful circumstances
over and beyond the ordinary rules.
Accordingly as circumstances become favorable or unfavorable,
one should modify one's plans.
All warfare is based on deception.
from The Art Of War by SunTzu
Which side in the current war between Islam and the Infide ...[text shortened]... egging into the definition of war, and a happless lefty is always a good tool. (see above)
If all warfare is based on deception then how can we, the public, know the truth of war if we are inherently deceived by it?
Only the highest power would possess the truth.
Originally posted by hopscotchThe purpose of war is to create the truth.
If you take Sun Tzu's words as truth then your question is meaningless.
If all warfare is based on deception then how can we, the public, know the truth of war if we are inherently deceived by it?
Only the highest power would possess the truth.
To deny that one is at war is to capitulate before battle.
A victory without blood is the sweetest of all wars, but only for the victor. The vanquished have no rights. The highest power owns the highest ground and has created deadly ground on which to meet the enemy.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyIt is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on.
The purpose of war is to create the truth.
To deny that one is at war is to capitulate before battle.
A victory without blood is the sweetest of all wars, but only for the victor. The vanquished have no rights. The highest power owns the highest ground and has created deadly ground on which to meet the enemy.
-Sun Tzu
Originally posted by hopscotch
It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on.
-Sun Tzu
There is no instance of a country having benefited
from prolonged warfare.
It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted
with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand
the profitable way of carrying it on.
The skillful soldier does not raise a second levy,
neither are his supply-wagons loaded more than twice.
Bring war material with you from home, but forage
on the enemy. Thus the army will have food enough
for its needs.
Poverty of the State tax inquisitor causes an army
to be maintained by contributions from a distance.
Contributing to maintain an army at a distance causes
the people to be impoverished.
Taking out of context is not good. Taken in context you see that the true soldier must understand so as not do impoverish his cause.
Many are asking what the relevancy of any of this is. I'll tell you. It is in the art of war stated that if one fails to recognize the enemy, then the war is lost.
I see a big problem here on rph with a total lack of 'enemy recognition'. I think that few have faced the following question:
"I have to choose. I am unarmed. I have to now choose which I would rather encounter a hundred miles from nowhere. Musab Al Zarquoui and twelve of his soldiers or an American platoon of marines?"
Answer that in a deep dark silent moment and answer it honestly. Then have the guts to take sides. Finally and forever. Enemy recognition is a vital skill. So until you choose, you are a fool.
As a wise man said in this context... "Either you are for us or you are against us in this fight against terrorism."
I excuse all commies,peta breads,elf's and anarchists from answering. Their biggest enemy will always be the USA. Their thinking is that the enemy of their BIGGEST enemy may not be a friend, but will be supported anyway in hopes of hurting the usa.
The war in Iraq is a war that the UN sanctioned. It passed a lot of resolutions that Iraq was to comply with a lot of conditions pursuant to their illegal invasion of Kuwait and the surrender documents signed to end that war. The Iraqi dictatorship then proceeded to break most of this surrender document and the UN basically signed off on a second war.
The US congress did then issue a declaration of war. The war was joined.
Why is this important? Because of all the misinformation being used by the friends of the terrorists to "de-legitimize" the Iraq war.
Myth #1 - The US is a rogue power that is only looking out for itself.
In truth, the US and the coalition are only supporting the surrender document that was broken by the Iraqi dictatorship in the Kuwait massacre.
Myth #2 - The US congress didn't "declare war".
In truth the us constitution says that "only congress shall have the power" to make war. It doesn't say what a "declaration" of war is. It does say what constitutes a "lawful" action by congress.It is a vote of both houses that gives authority for the commander in chief to act, and is in all cases a simple majority vote. The constitution then obligates the President to act. He has total discretion of the operation of the war, but can be reigned in by congress by a simple vote. The support for the war in congress TODAY is still over sixty percent.
The US congress DID vote the president the power and authority to enforce the UN resolutions demanding Iraqi's dictator to honor his surrender. That IS AND WAS A DECLARATION OF WAR. The congress did then twice vote and FUND THE WAR. These votes were agreement to the declaration of war that they made.
It is amazing how the enemies of freedom have lied and gotten away with this for so long. Sorry guys. Good things are just going to happen in spite of you. Perhaps more accurately, "Good things are going to happen just to spite you."
Originally posted by StarValleyWyThis is a very good point SVW, right on the nail.
[b]While taking the profit of my counsel,
avail yourself also of any helpful circumstances
over and beyond the ordinary rules.
Accordingly as circumstances become favorable or unfavorable,
one should modify one's plans.
All warfare is based on deception.
from The Art Of War by SunTzu
Which side in the current war between Islam and the egging into the definition of war, and a happless lefty is always a good tool. (see above)[/b]
My first thought would be, what will the effects of
a rebuilt Iraq be on Iran?
Originally posted by Thequ1ckA "rebuilt" Iraq has a lot of definitions, or more accurately a lot of 'potential outcomes'. I don't think we can know for at least a quarter century. Will it be rebuilt as an Islamic state? Will it be quasi-secular and have to fight the islamo-facists for the next hundred years? Will it revert to socialism under the socialist batthist party?
This is a very good point SVW, right on the nail.
My first thought would be, what will the effects of
a rebuilt Iraq be on Iran?
I sure don't know. I only know that we good atheists have to fight evil religion everywhere, and I can't think of anything more evil than fanatics who cut peoples heads off because god told them it was good. Nor can I think of anything as evil as being so brain-wiped as to drive into a market full of innocents to detonate myself just for the sake of death. All extremist's have indulged in the "cult of death"... the commies especially. I think that islamo-facists goals are identical to commies.
A SINGLE POINT OF VIEW, CONTROLLED BY A SINGLE UNITED WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
If that don't scare the bejezuss out of you, nothing will.
edit... Sorry. I just realized I didn't answer your question. I guess I can't see any influence on Iran because as I state, I don't think there will be any definition to Iraq for a long time. In the short term I see absolutely no linkage to any effect on Iran. Iran is a petty dictatorship that IS the number one sponsor of terror in the world. The US and Iran have been at war since the carter joke... errrr.... administration allowed them to take us hostage and still exist. Big mistake. If you appease a bully, you make him strong. Iran should have been "killed" at that time. But... it's never too late. Hopefully we can get it done before the "Hitler dilema" kicks in. We appeased him a bit too long and hard then paid the grizzly price (demanded of us to destroy) fanaticism.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyIs this 100% factual? Why do people like Ragnorak continue to post their mindless propoganda .. see the Denmark thread.
The war in Iraq is a war that the UN sanctioned. It passed a lot of resolutions that Iraq was to comply with a lot of conditions pursuant to their illegal invasion of Kuwait and the surrender documents signed to end that war. The Iraqi dictatorship then proceeded to break most of this surrender document and the UN basically signed off on a second war.
...[text shortened]... ou. Perhaps more accurately, "Good things are going to happen just to spite you."
Originally posted by Rajk999Ragnorak has a history of making valid, balanced points. He sees world issues from various perspectives, unlike some of the right wing fundamentalist contributors to the forums.
Is this 100% factual? Why do people like Ragnorak continue to post their mindless propoganda .. see the Denmark thread.
There should be more understanding of other persons point of view in these forums and in the world in general.
Originally posted by invigorateAgreed that people are entitled to perspectives and opinions. But when something is a fact it is a fact .. why not accept it ?
Ragnorak has a history of making valid, balanced points. He sees world issues from various perspectives, unlike some of the right wing fundamentalist contributors to the forums.
There should be more understanding of other persons point of view in these forums and in the world in general.
As for my opinion, war is an extension of political will. War is based on politics. Now I think that world peace and prosperity will never happen in our life times or are children's....
We spend so much money on weapons and reasons to kill each other...all the right ingredients are in place for another large scale war. Governments rise and fall...people die...it's a shame.
Politicians can barely agree with each other, especially when lobbyists are running the country. I wonder if the Minutemen ever had any idea...
I think it will get worse before it gets better.