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I don't know. Maybe I'm naive, but I thought it was very good. I like how he hammered on the concept of personal responsibility and the need for students to take advantage of their opportunity by working hard. He also told the students that if they drop out of school, they're letting the country down (as opposed to the country having failed them, as many liberals would no doubt put it). He also focused on not blaming the system for what you do or do not have access to, but to work your hardest based on the hand you're dealt.

I listened closely for liberal propaganda, but alas, I couldn't discern any. I'm not sure I buy this "I got up at 4:30 AM every day to study" stuff, but that's neither here nor there.

Call me crazy, but if one just read the speech without knowing the identity of the speaker, one might think the speaker is... gasp!... a conservative!

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Originally posted by sh76
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3pD4gSuN28

I don't know. Maybe I'm naive, but I thought it was very good. I like how he hammered on the concept of personal responsibility and the need for students to take advantage of their opportunity by working hard. He also told the students that if they drop out of school, they're letting the country down (as opposed to ...[text shortened]... the identity of the speaker, one might think the speaker is... gasp!... a conservative!
I fully believe the 4;30 bit, he has said this alot both in his book and on the campaign trail. The man is brilliant and hard working, wether you agree with his politics is an entirely different matter.

I too thought the speech was an excellent message for kids.

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Originally posted by sh76
I listened closely for liberal propaganda, but alas, I couldn't discern any.
First, education is liberal because it opens minds.

Second, he told the kids to get an education so they could help their country: this kind of collectivist focus is classic liberalism, and very much against the patriotic notion that we are in it for ourselves.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
First, education is liberal because it opens minds.

Second, he told the kids to get an education so they could help their country: this kind of collectivist focus is classic liberalism, and very much against the patriotic notion that we are in it for ourselves.
I thought the part where he said, "Kids, rich people haven't put in one honest day's work in their entire lives. Let's soak them to pay for healthcare," was a little biased.

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Originally posted by telerion
I thought the part where he said, "Kids, rich people haven't put in one honest day's work in their entire lives. Let's soak them to pay for healthcare," was a little biased.
I was also a bit disturbed when he unfurled a huge red banner featuring a picture of Lenin and Marx surrounding his own face, and declared that this would be the nation's new flag.

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Go ahead and have your little laugh but the fact is Obama backed off due to concerned parents. The president felt the schools and parents don't tell their kids what they need to be productive citezens? Yea right, he had another speach. He is cut from the same cloth as Al Gore.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
First, education is liberal because it opens minds.

Second, he told the kids to get an education so they could help their country: this kind of collectivist focus is classic liberalism, and very much against the patriotic notion that we are in it for ourselves.
Isn't patriotism about the country, not the self?

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Originally posted by joe beyser
Go ahead and have your little laugh but the fact is Obama backed off due to concerned parents. The president felt the schools and parents don't tell their kids what they need to be productive citezens? Yea right, he had another speach. He is cut from the same cloth as Al Gore.
How do you know he had another speech that he switched out?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
How do you know he had another speech that he switched out?
Because he told the kids what mom and dad tell them as well as the school systems. I don't buy it for a minute.

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Originally posted by joe beyser
Because he told the kids what mom and dad tell them as well as the school systems. I don't buy it for a minute.
Of course... what he said wasn't sinister so he must have changed it.

That's not evidence.

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Originally posted by sh76
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3pD4gSuN28

I don't know. Maybe I'm naive, but I thought it was very good. I like how he hammered on the concept of personal responsibility and the need for students to take advantage of their opportunity by working hard. He also told the students that if they drop out of school, they're letting the country down (as opposed to the identity of the speaker, one might think the speaker is... gasp!... a conservative!
(as opposed to the country having failed them, as many liberals would no doubt put it)

I don't know of a single mainstream liberal who would put it so tritely. I know (and know of) numerous conservatives who think liberals would though.

I listened closely for liberal propaganda, but alas, I couldn't discern any.

Excellent! The speech was obviously crafted well enough to hide the subliminal subversive liberal propaganda!!!! BWAH HA HA HA HA HAAAA!!!! Soon the children will be going home thinking that gay people deserve to be able to be married and that global warming is real!!

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Originally posted by PsychoPawn
Of course... what he said wasn't sinister so he must have changed it.

That's not evidence.
It was changed. Look it up.

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Originally posted by PsychoPawn
[i] Soon the children will be going home thinking that gay people deserve to be able to be married and that global warming is real!!
Obama is against gay marriage. Remember?

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Originally posted by joe beyser
It was changed. Look it up.
Look it up where? From Carl Rove's speculation?

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Originally posted by joe beyser
Go ahead and have your little laugh but the fact is Obama backed off due to concerned parents. The president felt the schools and parents don't tell their kids what they need to be productive citezens? Yea right, he had another speach. He is cut from the same cloth as Al Gore.
It's possible, of course. But why not judge politicians by what they actually do and say rather than what we speculate they might have wanted to say.

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