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John Negroponte told a hearing to confirm his position as the new deputy secretary of state that Mr Chavez has not been a "constructive force in the hemisphere".

From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6315819.stm

Now, let's have a look at Mr. Negroponte's history...

"Negroponte oversaw a huge military buildup in Honduras and was a principal player in arming the Contras and directing their terrorist activities against the Sandinistas in Nicaragua."
http://www.soaw.org/new/newswire_detail.php?id=1161

John Negroponte's nomination by President Bush yesterday to be his chief of intelligence represents the pinnacle of rehabilitation for a man who, for many people, will always be associated with US involvement in the "dirty wars" in Central America in the 1980s.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1417055,00.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52001-2005Mar20?language=printer

The Times article (of February 19) noted that human rights advocates were now complaining about the Negroponte appointment and accusing him of having covered up human rights abuses. The piece reported that Jack Binns, who had preceded Negroponte as ambassador in Honduras, opposed the nomination because he believed that Negroponte had misled Congress about human rights violations in Honduras and that Negroponte might tailor intelligence to fit the administration's policies.
http://www.soaw.org/new/newswire_detail.php?id=728

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This Negroponte must have balls the size of melons to make a statement like that!

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During the 1980s, the United States established a very large military presence in Honduras with the purpose of supporting the anti-Sandinista Contras fighting the Nicaraguan government, and to support the El Salvador military fighting against the FMLN guerrillas. Though spared the bloody civil wars wracking its neighbors, the Honduran army quietly waged a campaign against leftists which included extrajudicial killings and forced disappearances of political opponents by government-backed death squads.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honduras


During this time, President Duarte was receiving military aid from the United States to fight the Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front (FMLN), while the FMLN was receiving aid from groups both in the USA and other countries (Europe, Cuba, Venezuela, Russia). Complicating the situation were the actions of the ARENA party, which was proven to have had ties with death squads that were active in the country at the time. Finally, in the midst of increasing ineffectiveness, economic devastation, and a catastrophic civil war, PDC lost the 1988 elections and Nationalist Republican Alliance (ARENA) candidate Lic. Alfredo Félix Cristiani was elected [1]. The war ended with a 1992 cease-fire and peace agreement between the government, the political parties and the FMLN. This agreement was brokered by US president Reagan and finalized by President George HW Bush.

Among the victims of the war included Archbishop Óscar Arnulfo Romero, who is believed to be one of the greatest apostles of the poor in Latin America, for delivering his message of peace and equality for all Salvadorans. He was assassinated while delivering mass on Monday, March 24, 1980.

The assassination was carried out by Rafael Alvaro Saravia, who in 1979 left the Salvadoran military, and from that time worked closely with Roberto D’Aubuisson. D’Aubuisson, in conjunction with elements of the Salvadoran armed forces and far right Salvadoran civilians in El Salvador, Guatemala and the United States, founded the far right political party Alianza Republicana Nacionalista (“ARENA&rdquo😉, which is now in power in El Salvador. D’Aubuisson organized death squads composed of civilians and military figures that systematically carried out politically-motivated assassinations and other human rights abuses in El Salvador.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Salvador

VHeadline.com today publishes a top secret US Army document as a matter of public concern, relating to continuing belligerent interference by the United States of America in Venezuela's domestic political affairs

VHeadline.com editor & publisher Roy S. Carson writes: As a matter of public concern, especially where it relates to continuing belligerent United States of America interference in Venezuela's domestic political affairs and its not-so-covert support for anti-democratic forces within Venezuela weeking to overthrow the legitimate government of President Hugo Chavez Frias, VHeadline.com Venezuela today responsibly publishes (without permission) a top secret US Army document distributed to top Washington D.C. officials only last month in which United States' Counterinsurgency Operations are described in the form of a manual.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=S.%2020041205&articleId=283

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Does anybody else see a pattern here?
A pattern oozing with hypocrisy...

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Originally posted by shavixmir
During the 1980s, the United States established a very large military presence in Honduras with the purpose of supporting the anti-Sandinista Contras fighting the Nicaraguan government, and to support the El Salvador military fighting against the FMLN guerrillas. Though spared the bloody civil wars wracking its neighbors, the Honduran army quietly waged a ...[text shortened]...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=S.%2020041205&articleId=283
That happened to Guatamala also, 30 year civil war which left hundreds of thousands homeless and or dead.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
That happened to Guatamala also, 30 year civil war which left hundreds of thousands homeless and or dead.
Don't forget the battle for the Panama canal

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Originally posted by shavixmir
John Negroponte told a hearing to confirm his position as the new deputy secretary of state that Mr Chavez has not been a "constructive force in the hemisphere".

From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6315819.stm

Now, let's have a look at Mr. Negroponte's history...

"Negroponte oversaw a huge military buildup in Honduras and was a principal pla ...[text shortened]... ---
This Negroponte must have balls the size of melons to make a statement like that!
You say this like it's a bad thing?

Men like Negroponte generally say what they are told to say and any cover ups are likely at the orders of someone else. And yes, more often than not, they believe what they say and they might have initiated any cover ups without being told. Men like Negroponte are tools for their bosses even though they also think the same way.

That being said, I must admit my bias, I kinda like Negroponte. He has a habit of getting things done. And this whole hearing is a joke, they are confirming him for a demotion, I don't understand that. It's not like he's going to conflict with his boss or anything.

Bolton on the other hand, I REALLY like. He's more of a bludgeon than a neocon, so he was perfect for sending to the U.N.

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Originally posted by Merk
You say this like it's a bad thing?

Men like Negroponte generally say what they are told to say and any cover ups are likely at the orders of someone else. And yes, more often than not, they believe what they say and they might have initiated any cover ups without being told. Men like Negroponte are tools for their bosses even though they also think the sam ...[text shortened]... ALLY like. He's more of a bludgeon than a neocon, so he was perfect for sending to the U.N.
What about the hypocrisy of his statements?

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Originally posted by shavixmir
What about the hypocrisy of his statements?
I assume you're saying that U.S involvement in Honduras hasn't been a constructive force in the region?

If yes, I suppose you would call it hypocrisy.

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Where are our resident nut cases on this one then?

Mhmmm...
See, when hypocrisy becomes as apparant as this, even the right-wingers have to swallow hard, stare at the ground and kick little pebbles about.

Sickening.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Where are our resident nut cases on this one then?

Mhmmm...
See, when hypocrisy becomes as apparant as this, even the right-wingers have to swallow hard, stare at the ground and kick little pebbles about.

Sickening.
Did I miss something? Is it a closed clase that this is hypocrisy?

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Originally posted by Merk
Did I miss something? Is it a closed clase that this is hypocrisy?
Yes.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Yes.
In that case, the matter was never up for debate and you posted it in the wrong forum.

I would say the other right wingers spotted your motive before I did, which is why they never posted.

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Originally posted by Merk
In that case, the matter was never up for debate and you posted it in the wrong forum.

I would say the other right wingers spotted your motive before I did, which is why they never posted.
They just don't dare oppose the glaring truth.
Oh. They'd like to.
Oh. Deep down they'd like to say that US involvement in South and Central America was less worse than Chavez's...

But humility and rationality restrain them.
They know they are wrong.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
They just don't dare oppose the glaring truth.
Oh. They'd like to.
Oh. Deep down they'd like to say that US involvement in South and Central America was less worse than Chavez's...

But humility and rationality restrain them.
They know they are wrong.
So your position is that Amreican involvement in Central America has been bad for Central America? Or is it that American involvement in Honduras has been bad for Central America?

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Originally posted by Merk
So your position is that Amreican involvement in Central America has been bad for Central America? Or is it that American involvement in Honduras has been bad for Central America?
Both.
But, more to the point, Negroponte's comments are hypocritical on so many levels it had to be pointed out.

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