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  1. 05 Sep '09 16:30
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8239340.stm

    Thousands stage anti-Chavez demos
    Protests against Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez have taken place in cities across Latin America


    "Demonstrations were organised by Colombian activists after Mr Chavez criticised Colombia for allowing US forces access to seven military bases.
    The Venezuelan leader has already frozen diplomatic relations with Colombia and blocked bilateral trade.
    Protest organisers used a number of social networking sites to organise the "No more Chavez" demonstrations.

    Facebook and Twitter were the prime means for organising the demos against the Venezuelan leader.

    An estimated 5,000 people took part in protests in the Colombian capital Bogota, and thousands more in the capitals of Venezuela and Honduras.
    Smaller demonstrations were held in other Latin American capitals, as well as in New York and Madrid.

    In Venezuela, President Chavez's supporters also marched through the capital, Caracas, to show their solidarity with the socialist leader."

    There has been controversy in Colombia, with revelations that a political party loyal to Mr Chavez is being established in the country, allegedly with the support of local Venezuelan officials, our correspondent adds.

    Protesters are angry not only about Mr Chavez's comments on Colombia's relations with the US military, but also his moves to block trade between Venezuela and Colombia.

    "It is a worldwide manifestation, which begins in Colombia but many countries have joined," said one anti-Chavez demonstrator.

    "It is important that we show the world we are not with Chavez."
  2. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    05 Sep '09 17:02
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8239340.stm

    [b]Thousands stage anti-Chavez demos
    Protests against Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez have taken place in cities across Latin America


    "Demonstrations were organised by Colombian activists after Mr Chavez criticised Colombia for allowing US forces access to seven military bases.
    The Ve ...[text shortened]... ez demonstrator.

    "It is important that we show the world we are not with Chavez."[/b]
    The 36.9% of the people who lost the 2006 election have spoken, maybe.
  3. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    05 Sep '09 17:17
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8239340.stm

    [b]Thousands stage anti-Chavez demos
    Protests against Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez have taken place in cities across Latin America


    "Demonstrations were organised by Colombian activists after Mr Chavez criticised Colombia for allowing US forces access to seven military bases.
    The Ve ...[text shortened]... ez demonstrator.

    "It is important that we show the world we are not with Chavez."[/b]
    You mean the couple of thousand spread over 4 countries have spoken, compared to the millions and millions who are pro-Chavez?

    Oh. Yeah. Those people.
  4. 05 Sep '09 17:30
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    You mean the couple of thousand spread over 4 countries have spoken, compared to the millions and millions who are pro-Chavez?

    Oh. Yeah. Those people.
    Shavixmir, you sound like Tony Blair! I remember him telling us that the fact only two million people turned out for antiwar demonstrations in 2003 "proved" that the other 58 million or so of the British population were in favour of invading Iraq.

    I realise two million is more than a few thousand, but you can't deduce from the number who turned out for a demonstration how much of the population of Latin America is pro- or anti-Chavez. Venezuelan election results are, of course, much more convincing evidence of Chavez' popularity, so I'm not disputing your overall point, just your method of supporting it.
  5. 05 Sep '09 17:38
    Originally posted by rwingett
    The 36.9% of the people who lost the 2006 election have spoken, maybe.
    and therefore they must be wrong?

    a classic example of argumentum ad populum.
  6. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    05 Sep '09 17:54 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    and therefore they must be wrong?

    a classic example of argumentum ad populum.
    That's what electoral politics is. The Chavez detractors lost the election. The Chavez supporters won. That's really all there is to it.
  7. Standard member Redmike
    Godless Commie
    05 Sep '09 19:53
    5,000 people, in a different country?

    Hardly news at all, really.