02 May 05
Originally posted by monster truckLOL! Michigan, especially Ann Arbor.
Could one of our brothers or sisters familiar with the socialist states
please recommend which one is the best? We (not allowed to say "I" in the collective states) would like to move there if everyone else hasn't moved there already.....
With your permission, of course!
02 May 05
Originally posted by DelmerNo, "we're" serious brother Del! Have had enough of getting paid what "we're" worth and having some modicum of personal responisiblity. "We" want to move somewhere (with the permission of the collective of course) where our brothers and sisters are responsible for us.
LOL! Michigan, especially Ann Arbor.
Please help! Which socialist state is the best? We are just dying to go there, kinda like the Mexican's in the boxcar's and the Cuban's on the homemade rafts coming to the filthy, capitalist, freedom loving U.S.
Oh wait....
Cuba= poster child for socialism, they must not be #1 on the list.
02 May 05
Originally posted by monster truckThere are currently no states where socialism is in operation - its extremely doubtful whether it can exist in a single state.
No, "we're" serious brother Del! Have had enough of getting paid what "we're" worth and having some modicum of personal responisiblity. "We" want to move somewhere (with the permission of the collective of course) where our brothers and sisters are responsible for us.
Please help! Which socialist state is the best? We are just dying to go ...[text shortened]... m loving U.S.
Oh wait....
Cuba= poster child for socialism, they must not be #1 on the list.
03 May 05
Originally posted by monster truckCuba has the best cigars. BTW, I'm serious about Michigan. After all, we already have a Canadian, socialist, female governor and a teachers union that guarantees your children will never be bothered with reading, 'riting and 'rithmatic. Experience true freedom from self as our Canadian, socialist, female governor lifts the burden of individuality from your aching shoulders.
No, "we're" serious brother Del! Have had enough of getting paid what "we're" worth and having some modicum of personal responisiblity. "We" want to move somewhere (with the permission of the collective of course) where our brothers and sisters are responsible for us.
Please help! Which socialist state is the best? We are just dying to go ...[text shortened]... m loving U.S.
Oh wait....
Cuba= poster child for socialism, they must not be #1 on the list.
03 May 05
Originally posted by DelmerYou're darn right. The lone Republican on the Ann Arbor City Council just announced he will not seek re-election. The city will continue its status as the pre-eminent bleeding heart liberal paradise on Earth. Once we've chased that last dang-blasted Republican out of town we'll be a shining beacon to civilized people everywhere, completely unsullied by the vile scourge of conservatism.
LOL! Michigan, especially Ann Arbor.
But we're still not socialists. At least not enough of us, anyway.
03 May 05
Originally posted by ColettiFor a single state to practise socialism, 'like an island in a sea of capitalism', is probably not viable. There would need to be a number such states, so that they wouldn't be dependant on capitalist countries for resources.
What do you mean by "doubtful whether it can exist in a single state"?
That's not to say you can't have a socialist government in power in a single state, but that's not the same as practising socialism.
03 May 05
Originally posted by RedmikeAbsolutely right!
For a single state to practise socialism, 'like an island in a sea of capitalism', is probably not viable. There would need to be a number such states, so that they wouldn't be dependant on capitalist countries for resources.
That's not to say you can't have a socialist government in power in a single state, but that's not the same as practising socialism.
Just look at the aggression aimed towards the Soviet block (which wasn't even communist, but State-capitalist) by the capitalist countries.
When workers get more rights, the bosses get scared they'll lose power and will do nearly anything to retain it.
One socialist state would just be crushed, before it started giving off wrong signals to the production units (read workers) in other countries.
03 May 05
Originally posted by shavixmirIn practise though, there's not likely to be a single state pushing for socialism while the rest of the world goes in the opposite direction. Much as I'd like to see an Independant Socialist Scotland, I'm not naive enough to think we'd have a snowball's chance if that wasn't alongside other, similar movements elsewhere (even in England, who knows).
Absolutely right!
Just look at the aggression aimed towards the Soviet block (which wasn't even communist, but State-capitalist) by the capitalist countries.
When workers get more rights, the bosses get scared they'll lose power and will do nearly anything to retain it.
One socialist state would just be crushed, before it started giving off wrong signals to the production units (read workers) in other countries.
Its much more likely, especially in these days of global communications, that there will be a movement in many places across the planet, with some nations being further down the road than others, towards socialist changes. These countries can then give support to each other (political, economic etc) against the inevitable attacks by the multi-nationals and their allies.
03 May 05
Originally posted by RedmikeSort of like the U.S.A. does in supporting democracy and freedom with it's bizillion dollars per yer (approximate figure) of financial aid to foreign countries, eh?
In practise though, there's not likely to be a single state pushing for socialism while the rest of the world goes in the opposite direction.
Its much more likely, especially in these days of global communications, that there will be a movement in many places across the planet, with some nations being further down the road than others, towards socialist ...[text shortened]... litical, economic etc) against the inevitable attacks by the multi-nationals and their allies.
This must be part of a huge marketing campaign by the capitalists to gain "production units" and the rest of us freedom lovers are just fools who've been duped, no?
03 May 05
Originally posted by monster truckWhat's this could to do with the subject of the thread?
Sort of like the U.S.A. does in supporting democracy and freedom with it's bizillion dollars per yer (approximate figure) of financial aid to foreign countries, eh?
This must be part of a huge marketing campaign by the capitalists to gain "production units" and the rest of us freedom lovers are just fools who've been duped, no?
The US gives one of the lowest GDP percentages of any developed country in foreign aid. And the paltry amount you do give is with strings.
If you value the 'freedom' to work for someone else's profit, then you've certainly been duped.
03 May 05
Originally posted by RedmikeWorking for someone else's profit....hmmm, sounds like socialism to me.
If you value the 'freedom' to work for someone else's profit, then you've certainly been duped.
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Working for my union brothers and sisters, yes! Let's toil on in the name of the almighty collective!
03 May 05
Originally posted by monster truckIt only sounds like socialism to you because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Working for someone else's profit....hmmm, sounds like socialism to me.
Working for my union brothers and sisters, yes! Let's toil on in the name of the almighty collective!