https://news.yahoo.com/sorry-lying-13-years-iranian-201452298.html
In stead of the ivory tower Iran we see so much of here presented. Luckily, they don't make excuses any longer for murdering people on air planes like were hear from loons at RHP.
A number of Iranian TV hosts and other public personalities have denounced the regime in the wake of Iran’s missile strike on a Ukrainian passenger jet that killed 176 people after the military mistook the jet for an enemy target.
“Apologies for lying to you for 13 years,” state TV host of “Good Morning Iran” Gelareh Jabbari posted on Instagram last Monday. “It was very hard for me to believe our people have been killed, forgive me for believing this late.”
The post, which was seen by NBC News, has since been deleted.
Taraneh Alidoosti, one of Iran’s most popular actors and a star of the Oscar-winning 2016 movie The Salesman, also criticized the regime in a post to her 5.8 million Instagram followers.
“We are not citizens, we are captives, millions of captives,” Alidoosti wrote. That post has also been deleted.
“The Islamic Republic is facing the worst legitimacy crisis in its 40-year history, and the pressures are mounting from every angle,” Afshin Shahi, associate professor of Middle East politics at Bradford University, England, told NBC. “The gap between the state and society has widened to an extreme extent.”
Iran admitted to accidentally shooting down the plane after several days of official denials. U.S., Canadian and European intelligence had already indicated the plane was shot down in a missile strike.
Several hours earlier, Iran launched 15 ballistic missiles at U.S. positions in Iraq, in retaliation for the U.S. killing of top Iranian general Qasem Soleimani. The Iranian military later said the strikes were not intended to kill U.S. troops.
However, the Pentagon later acknowledged that 11 Americans were injured in the strikes, and were being treated for concussive symptoms.
@whodey
I couldn't agree more that the Iranian people, who are close to insurrection and who despise their ruling Mullahs, are very good natured people.
All I will say (for now) is this, there is a damn good reason why the Ruling Mullahs came to power. And the American Power Pigs in Washington are 100% to blame. The US had Iran as an ally in our sphere until the PIGS did something totally wrong in Iran.
And our tax dollars PAID for it. It's merely an example of government gone bad that forced me to exit the democrat party and work for taking power that government can abuse *away* from them.
@earl-of-trumps saidWas there a "good" reason for all the various revolutions throughout history? I'm sure you can point to abuses by their respective government in every single case to make your case. But at the end of the day, all governments are guilty of wrong doing of some sort, so should they all be overthrown, only to be replaced by an imperfect government that may be worse?
@whodey
I couldn't agree more that the Iranian people, who are close to insurrection and who despise their ruling Mullahs, are very good natured people.
All I will say (for now) is this, there is a damn good reason why the Ruling Mullahs came to power. And the American Power Pigs in Washington are 100% to blame. The US had Iran as an ally in our sphere until the ...[text shortened]... me to exit the democrat party and work for taking power that government can abuse *away* from them.
I suppose the best way of looking at this might be to ask yourself, would you prefer to live in the US or Iran? Additionally, would you prefer to live in Iran before the Shah fell or after?
@whodey saidWhodey, before the Shah fell??? They were forked at that point. They never should have had the SHAH. The Shah was foisted on them by the US when the US worked a way to remove the democratically elected leader.
Was there a "good" reason for all the various revolutions throughout history? I'm sure you can point to abuses by their respective government in every single case to make your case. But at the end of the day, all governments are guilty of wrong doing of some sort, so should they all be overthrown, only to be replaced by an imperfect government that may be worse?
I suppose ...[text shortened]... ve in the US or Iran? Additionally, would you prefer to live in Iran before the Shah fell or after?
Iran now had to have a revolution to oust the US puppet Shah and the horrible menace, the USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27état 1953 Iranian coup d'état
It takes an explanation as to why this all led to the Mullahs taking power after the revolution but it has exactly to do with what the US was trying to accomplish in Iran and how those actions turned the most religious amongst the Iranian people the most energized to fight.
Fights for power do not necessarily go to the side with the most people, but more like, it goes to the people with the most fight in them.
@earl-of-trumps saidDon't get me wrong, US foreign policy before the age of Trump has been an abject fiasco in both parties. That does not change the fact though that having the US prop up a government may be better than the alternative for the citizens of that country. It all comes down to whether the US wants to continue to throw their money all around the world, which they will continue to do anyway
Whodey, before the Shah fell??? They were forked at that point. They never should have had the SHAH. The Shah was foisted on them by the US
Iran was a happy nation when they had a democratically elected leader until we screwed with them and it took a revolution to oust the Shah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27état [b]1953 Iranian coup d'état ...[text shortened]... to the side with the most people, but more like, it goes to the people with the most fight in them.
In fact, the people of North Korea would have also been better off had the US gone in and taken out that regime and placed a more sane government, but again, should that be their role in the world and would it have been worth American gold and lives?
@whodey saidPlease, Whodey!! Saying "we know what's best for you" is the poorest excuse going. It was done for America to accomplish something. Plain and simple.
Don't get me wrong, US foreign policy before the age of Trump has been an abject fiasco in both parties. That does not change the fact though that having the US prop up a government may be better than the alternative for the citizens of that country. It all comes down to whether the US wants to continue to throw their money all around the world, which they will continue to d ...[text shortened]... again, should that be their role in the world and would it have been worth American gold and lives?
There is no doubt whatsoever that taking out the democratically elected leader of Iran, Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, and replacing him with a string of Shahs of Iran, who were all American puppets, did not serve democracy nor the Iranian people.
What the US accomplished was ultimately to force the Iranian people to have a revolution in order to restore their autonomy.
I looked at the facts, Whodey, and just shook my head. And the American bobble heads blame the Iranian people...? because our government TELLS us to?
America IS the Deep dark evil empire on this planet.
@earl-of-trumps saidIt would be interesting to put to a vote going back to the Shah verses staying with the regime they have now, but this will never be put to a vote. In fact, they are just as much without democracy with their current regime as with the Shah, if not more so.
Please, Whodey!! Saying "we know what's best for you" is the poorest excuse going. It was done for America to accomplish something. Plain and simple.
There is no doubt whatsoever that taking out the democratically elected leader of Iran, Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, and replacing him with a string of Shahs of Iran, who were all American puppets, did not serve ...[text shortened]... ple...? because our government TELLS us to?
America IS the Deep dark evil empire on this planet.
So if the above is correct, which government would they be happier with?
@whodey saidyou miss the whole point, Whodey.
It would be interesting to put to a vote going back to the Shah verses staying with the regime they have now, but this will never be put to a vote. In fact, they are just as much without democracy with their current regime as with the Shah, if not more so.
So if the above is correct, which government would they be happier with?
There is no way the people would ever vote for their American puppet Shah to ever come back to power. That's why they had a revolution!
Funny how you give the Iranian people two horrid choices - the Shah, or the Mullahs, when the people really want their democratically duly elected leader back. Why can't that have been on your menu of choices for the people? It is their country, you know.
They were all good - before US intervention in a most undemocratic way.
Did you know that prior to the Shah and under the rule of democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, the country of Iran had no such organization as the SAVAK, Iran's equivalent of CIA, until the Shah was installed and at US insistence?
Iran was a democratic nation and a peaceful one at that, too. What a SHAME!
@earl-of-trumps saidThose who via for revolution rarely, if ever, have the majority support.
you miss the whole point, Whodey.
There is no way the people would ever vote for their American puppet Shah to ever come back to power. That's why they had a revolution!
Funny how you give the Iranian people two horrid choices - the Shah, or the Mullahs, when the people really want their democratically duly elected leader back. Why can't that have been on your me ...[text shortened]... and at US insistence?
Iran was a democratic nation and a peaceful one at that, too. What a SHAME!
In the US the majority did not side with those fighting in the war, even though they may be been sympathetic to the cause.
I also have trouble believing that Iran was the utopia that you make it out to before the Shah arrived.
And why is everyone convinced that everyone in the Middle East wants a democracy. Many want Sharia law is all.
@whodey In the US the majority did not side with those fighting in the war, even though they may be been sympathetic to the cause.
I assume you are talking about their revolution?
Of course we did not support it, our pols were losing control of Iran and told us that Iranian revolutionaries were bad bad people that took American HOSTAGES! (no, they were CIA criminals taken PRISONERS)
And why is it a concern of America to determine whether a country is utopian or not, as if we have the right to pass sentence on them if they don't pass our muster. Absurd. There are no utopian societies including America's. But the Iranians do have the right to their own autonomy, as all countries do.
There were a LOT more countries in that region that were a lot worse off with their current regimes than Iran. Believe me.
And back then, no one wanted Sharia law. Sharia became in vogue as the Islam religion grew by leaps and bounds in the 80's and beyond.