@wildgrass saidI'm sure he did if you say so,, I didn't hear all of his speeches. But why do you say that, when ALL politicians do that. Check out Obama whoppers. And somewhere in here he 'promised' (oh my goodness) a $2500 savings with his insurance plan....ends up insurance cost us $2500 more!I couldn't say about all that
Why can't you? It's true and factual. Trump campaigned on reducing federal spending and then massively increased it. There's not any nuance or opinion there.
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/obamas-whoppers/
Oh, well, just jawing with liberal air on a Sunday morning.
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@averagejoe1 saidFor the last time I'm not a liberal Joe.
I'm sure he did if you say so,, I didn't hear all of his speeches. But why do you say that, when ALL politicians do that. Check out Obama whoppers. And somewhere in here he 'promised' (oh my goodness) a $2500 savings with his insurance plan....ends up insurance cost us $2500 more!
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/obamas-whoppers/
Oh, well, just jawing with liberal air on a Sunday morning.
Our government should be half the size it is, fiscally. As in, it should be spending half the amount of money it currently spends. Republicans say they want that too. They campaign on it and get people to donate who recognize the importance of limited government.
Then, when we elect them all into office, like we did in 2017-18, what do they do? They INCREASE spending. By a lot. You keep countering this point by saying "well, ya but Obama was bad" but the critical point here is that they were both bad but Trump and the Republican Senate were objectively, quantifiably WORSE! They spent more money than Obama did.
All the GOP are capable of doing is whining. Immigrants are bad. Great. They never do anything about it. Not a single piece of legislation was even written in that two year period to address immigration.
Not one. Think on that. These guys campaign that our government spends too much money, and that immigration policies need to change, but then when they have all the power and the ability to change those things they do the opposite. They make things worse.
@wildgrass saidYou are exactly right, I apologize and agree. I just feel like a lamb in woods full of hyenas, at night. Doing all I can to, as Obama and I always say, Keep Hope Alive!!
For the last time I'm not a liberal Joe.
Our government should be half the size it is, fiscally. As in, it should be spending half the amount of money it currently spends. Republicans say they want that too. They campaign on it and get people to donate who recognize the importance of limited government.
Then, when we elect them all into office, like we did in 2017-18, ...[text shortened]... e all the power and the ability to change those things they do the opposite. They make things worse.
But it is the nature of government to keep spending, very sad. But, If we were co-presidents, conservative and all that, we would probably disagree on how to allocate (and cancel) money programs. You may like Planned Parenthood, while I would say close it down. We would probably BOTH say to get rid of the Dept of Education. In the end, the lobbyists, the people who are Woke, whatever that is (I live in a bubble, mind you), the AOC trash of the world, the environmentalists who actually think humans can do one thing about the climate,, which is false.......all of these people would probably prevail, and you and I would say.."What in the world just happened?"
Then, we would cash in our off-shore tax shelters, and spend our time racing our yachts from one port to another.
@AverageJoe1. Having said all that, we are left with who would be the best president to begin to turn the nightmare around....a liberal spending more money, pushing things like foreigners voting, or a true leader focused on the plight of the USA? That would be a conservative, of course, money notwithstanding.
@averagejoe1 said
You are exactly right, I apologize and agree. I just feel like a lamb in woods full of hyenas, at night. Doing all I can to, as Obama and I always say, Keep Hope Alive!!
But it is the nature of government to keep spending, very sad. But, If we were co-presidents, conservative and all that, we would probably disagree on how to allocate (and cancel) money programs. Y ...[text shortened]... d cash in our off-shore tax shelters, and spend our time racing our yachts from one port to another.
If we were co-presidents, conservative and all that, we would probably disagree on how to allocate (and cancel) money programs.
Across the board, evenly distributed cuts to all programs except Research and Development (e.g. the NIH and NSF). This needs to be coupled with a constitutional amendment to mandate balanced budgets for all situations except war time. This would prevent the Republican attempts to enact tax cuts without defining where the commensurate spending cut would come from. We would have to demand that this action was taken legislatively (written into law) so that the next president would not simply reverse it.
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@wildgrass saidThat would be a good start. Do you think any programs are so wasteful and useless that they should be shut down? Which ones. Really cool would be to adopt a Fair Tax, where a tax return is on one page. It would let you and me shut down he IRS, and fire the nasty agents they just hired! Then , the Dept of education, since each state already has one. Did you know that? Un believable.If we were co-presidents, conservative and all that, we would probably disagree on how to allocate (and cancel) money programs.
Across the board, evenly distributed cuts to all programs except Research and Development (e.g. the NIH and NSF). This needs to be coupled with a constitutional amendment to mandate balanced budgets for all situations except war ...[text shortened]... n was taken legislatively (written into law) so that the next president would not simply reverse it.
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@averagejoe1 saidI don't know about shutting down altogether. The biggest impact would be felt with cuts to the biggest programs. These programs are needed for a functioning federal government but have become way too bloated.
That would be a good start. Do you think any programs are so wasteful and useless that they should be shut down? Which ones. Really cool would be to adopt a Fair Tax, where a tax return is on one page. It would let you and me shut down he IRS, and fire the nasty agents they just hired! Then , the Dept of education, since each state already has one. Did you know that? Un believable.
DOE directly funds K-12 schools, so completely eliminating it would be excessively harsh for rural areas that have lower property taxes to fund their schools. When the DOE budget is cut in half, though, it forces them to prioritize projects and get rid of waste in their system.
Shutting down the IRS is also not useful, because even cutting the federal budget in half would still require spending $3 trillion and where will that money come from if people stop paying taxes?
@wildgrass saidTrump wanted to overthrow Maduro. He failed. Did Biden do that?
In the first two years of the Biden administration, 615,000 jobs have been repatriated from China.
Since Biden signed the CHIPS act, $87 billion in private funding was announced for new midwest manufacturing plants.
Prescription drug prices are falling.
All Trump knew how to do was spend money. He doubled Obama's deficits. Biden's doing the things that Trump promised by never delivered.
"In the first two years of the Biden administration, 615,000 jobs have been repatriated from China."
What is your source of information?
"Prescription drug prices are falling."
How did Biden do that?
The world’s biggest chipmaker (in terms of sales) is already an American corporation – Intel, based in Santa Clara, California.
Intel hardly needs the money. Its revenue rose to $79bn last year. Its chief executive, Pat Gelsinger, got a total compensation package of $179m (which was 1,711 times larger than the average Intel employee).
@wildgrass saidAll good points, and I did not know DOE was the exclusive K-12 source. Interesting . You are right, there would be no more Income Tax, but the Fair Tax replaces it with a sales tax, 24%. So, no filings, thus, no IRS. No fraud, no cheats, no nothing. Here is a simple explanation link. The Flat Tax is also touted but it would require the IRS. Note that the Fair Tax would mean the govt would not know how much money you make. Nirvana.
I don't know about shutting down altogether. The biggest impact would be felt with cuts to the biggest programs. These programs are needed for a functioning federal government but have become way too bloated.
DOE directly funds K-12 schools, so completely eliminating it would be excessively harsh for rural areas that have lower property taxes to fund their schools. When ...[text shortened]... still require spending $3 trillion and where will that money come from if people stop paying taxes?
https://thecollegeinvestor.com/35525/what-is-the-fair-tax/
@metal-brain saidFrom what pulpit do you announce that Intel doesn’t need the money? By what basis do you say the CEO makes too much? His shareholders apparently are in agreement to pay him that, so his leadership must be worth that. Your comparison of his salary to that of employees sounds like Marxist discontent. Brrrr
Trump wanted to overthrow Maduro. He failed. Did Biden do that?
"In the first two years of the Biden administration, 615,000 jobs have been repatriated from China."
What is your source of information?
"Prescription drug prices are falling."
How did Biden do that?
The world’s biggest chipmaker (in terms of sales) is already an American corporation – Intel, ...[text shortened]... total compensation package of $179m (which was 1,711 times larger than the average Intel employee).
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@averagejoe1 saidI don't see any mainstream politicians even bring this up as an option.
All good points, and I did not know DOE was the exclusive K-12 source. Interesting . You are right, there would be no more Income Tax, but the Fair Tax replaces it with a sales tax, 24%. So, no filings, thus, no IRS. No fraud, no cheats, no nothing. Here is a simple explanation link. The Flat Tax is also touted but it would require the IRS. Note that the Fair T ...[text shortened]... ow how much money you make. Nirvana.
https://thecollegeinvestor.com/35525/what-is-the-fair-tax/
But "reining in spending in Washington" is a political ad by Republican candidates on the local news every evening. They talk and talk and talk and then they do nothing. In fact, worse than nothing because they end up spending more money than Democrats. Your proposal seems interesting, but unless and until voters of the Republican stop voting for candidates who don't do what they say they want to do then it won't happen.
Hold them accountable. You watch Cavuto. Has he ever complained about Trump's insanely extravagant spending of US tax dollars? He accelerated budget increases and didn't even give a reason for it. We voted him into office and he had both houses of Congress. Why did he suddenly start reversing a positive trend in deficit reduction that had been happening for 6+ years? Has he ever been asked that question?
@wildgrass saidI will email Cavuto that question, but he hasn't answered on of mine yet, that I have seen anyway. You are correct, politics sucks.
I don't see any mainstream politicians even bring this up as an option.
But "reining in spending in Washington" is a political ad by Republican candidates on the local news every evening. They talk and talk and talk and then they do nothing. In fact, worse than nothing because they end up spending more money than Democrats. Your proposal seems interesting, but unless and ...[text shortened]... end in deficit reduction that had been happening for 6+ years? Has he ever been asked that question?
As to why Fair Tax is never pushed, I think the lobbyists who would be affected are just too many. Just the lobbyists for CPAs and accountants are huge enough. A lot of people who would be out of work.