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Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
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Notice how both Canada and America are trying to wreck the Bali summit?
Be more specific please.

The US Republican administration and the Canadian Conservative administration are trying to wreck Bali.

Not the US and Canada. Most Canadians disagree with the position taken by our minority government.

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Originally posted by slimjim
Yeah well you owe us billions for protection under our Air defense umbrella.
Is that a joke? It certainly makes no sense. Despite rules set out in NAFTA making it illegal Americans set up massive taxes on imported Canadian wood to protect American industry.

There is no comparison. I don't even know what you're talking about: who do we need protection from? If anything American government policy has made Middle Eastern countries link Canada with the US and now terrorists want to kill us too because we're "Western". Anyway, it's not like we promised you money you didn't receive.

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Originally posted by The Dude 84
Is that a joke? It certainly makes no sense. Despite rules set out in NAFTA making it illegal Americans set up massive taxes on imported Canadian wood to protect American industry.

There is no comparison. I don't even know what you're talking about: who do we need protection from? If anything American government policy has made Middle Eastern countri ...[text shortened]... because we're "Western". Anyway, it's not like we promised you money you didn't receive.
A joke? You Canucks were protected by the US and it's massive defense systems during the "Cold War". Get a history book and read it.

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Originally posted by slimjim
Yeah well you owe us billions for protection under our Air defense umbrella.
yeah becuase canada needs protecting from????

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Originally posted by eatmybishop
can someone tell me what the relationship is like between these two countries?

i heard the two nations don't like each other, but i find that hard to believe, they both have english as their home language, both are a democracy and both have christianity as their most dominant religion, yet it seems the u.s has a stronger relationship with the south am ...[text shortened]... ut i think all are true... i do know that canada has english and french as their home language)
When the US instigated the war of 1812 we invaded Canada. It didn't take long to realize that it was a mistake. While we were busy getting our butts talked to death by the french, the Britts took over Washington DC!

Then things got bad.

Actually, I don't think that we get along too good with the east of Canada, but get along quite well with the non-french West.

We do see Canadians as rather easily brain-washed. They seem to have fallen into the "US Is Satan" conspiracy that now rages over the world. But then anyone who can be entertained by Red Greene MUST be an easy target for mind wipe methodology.

I like Canooks. At least the ones I have met, worked with, played with and come to know. They have a tremendous sense of humor and they are invariably devoted to their families.

But again, I only know three or four families out or quite a few million people.

An impression of how the two "states" relate might be summarized by me as "Pretty darned good, considering that they think we are evil murdering capitalists and we think that they all eat catfood."

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Originally posted by slimjim
A joke? You Canucks were protected by the US and it's massive defense systems during the "Cold War". Get a history book and read it.
I should read a history book, like I've never heard of the Cold War? That was a really violent war, Im glad we were protected from all the bloodshed.

Canada had our own high tech defence system during that war: Duck and Cover!

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Originally posted by Kaworukun
yeah becuase canada needs protecting from????
ask the Finns.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States-Canada_softwood_lumber_dispute

"United States-Canada softwood lumber dispute
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The United States-Canada softwood lumber dispute is one of the most significant and enduring trade disputes in modern history. The dispute has had its biggest effect on British Columbia, the major Canadian exporter of softwood lumber to the United States.

The heart of the dispute is the claim that the Canadian lumber industry is unfairly subsidized by the federal and provincial governments. Specifically, most timber in Canada is owned by provincial governments. The price charged to harvest the timber (the "stumpage fee"😉 is set administratively rather than through a competitive auction, as is often the practice in the United States. The United States claims that the provision of government timber at below market prices constitutes an unfair subsidy. Under U.S. trade remedy laws, foreign goods benefiting from subsidies can be subject to a countervailing duty tariff to offset the subsidy and bring the price of the product back up to market rates.

The Canadian government and lumber industry disputes the assertion that its timber is subsidized on a variety of bases, including that the timber is provided to so many industries that it cannot be considered sufficiently specific to be a subsidy under U.S. law. Under U.S. trade remedy law, a subsidy to be countervailable must be specific to a particular industry. This requirement precludes imposition of countervailing duties on government programs, such as roads, that are meant to benefit a broad array of interests.

Since 1982, there have been four major iterations of the dispute.

In April 2006, The United States and Canada announced that they had reached a tentative settlement to end the current dispute. Under the preliminary terms, the United States would lift duties provided lumber prices continue to stay above a certain range. Below the specified range, a mixed export tax/quota regime would be implemented on imports of Canadian lumber. As a part of the deal, more than $5 billion in duty deposits collected would be returned."