03 Sep 21
@metal-brain said"My" source is the CDC.
Not true. Your source is spreading misinformation.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2021/08/31/natural-immunity-offers-better-protection-against-delta-variant-than-mrna-vaccines-study-n2595054
It's not a dichotomy, fella. It can BOTH be true that the vaccines are awesome and natural infection also grant good protection.
@sh76 saidYour source is a known liar.
"My" source is the CDC.
It's not a dichotomy, fella. It can BOTH be true that the vaccines are awesome and natural infection also grant good protection.
https://chemicalviolence.com/2021-09-02-israel-now-has-more-covid-infections-any-country.html
@sh76 saidThis news, plus the uptick in the number of people getting vaccines may mean a return to normalcy sometime early next year. It's sad there are still vaccine deniers out there (such as the other guy in this thread) who won't accept the truth.
I posted this earlier, but it's worth its own thread.
https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-charts-show-pfizer-vaccine-works-against-covid-delta-2021-8
The only permanent change I see when this virus has passed is higher number of remote workers who won't accept sitting in rush hour traffic 2 hours a day as a necessary part of doing their job.
03 Sep 21
@sh76 saidYour source is contradicting itself!
"My" source is the CDC.
It's not a dichotomy, fella. It can BOTH be true that the vaccines are awesome and natural infection also grant good protection.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!
03 Sep 21
@mchill said"Return to normalcy" will happen when we collectively decide to return to normal.
This news, plus the uptick in the number of people getting vaccines may mean a return to normalcy sometime early next year. It's sad there are still vaccine deniers out there (such as the other guy in this thread) who won't accept the truth.
The only permanent change I see when this virus has passed is higher number of remote workers who won't accept sitting in rush hour traffic 2 hours a day as a necessary part of doing their job.
COVID rates will always be high enough to give excuse to people who want to enforce restrictions.
Last year, most people assumed that life would be back to "normal" 9 months after we'd started distributing highly effective vaccines.
@metal-brain saidOnly if you have an extremely limited attention span.
Your source is contradicting itself!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!
03 Sep 21
@sh76 said"Return to normalcy" will happen when we collectively decide to return to normal.
"Return to normalcy" will happen when we collectively decide to return to normal.
COVID rates will always be high enough to give excuse to people who want to enforce restrictions.
Last year, most people assumed that life would be back to "normal" 9 months after we'd started distributing highly effective vaccines.
If that's true we'll need to measure this return to normalcy in decades since our nation can't seem to "collectively" decide on much of anything
@metal-brain saidIf you'd have read the link I posted, you'd have realized that the main thing it's effective at (and the main POINT of any vaccine) is to stop serious illness, not necessarily infection.
It doesn't stop the spread.
https://chemicalviolence.com/2021-09-02-israel-now-has-more-covid-infections-any-country.html
@sh76 saidThat is true for everybody, including the unvaccinated.
If you'd have read the link I posted, you'd have realized that the main thing it's effective at (and the main POINT of any vaccine) is to stop serious illness, not necessarily infection.
https://nypost.com/2021/07/08/dont-buy-the-hysteria-the-delta-variant-is-actually-less-dangerous/
The article you posted is misleading as well. If the Pfizer vaccine is kicking the delta variant why is it not stopping the spread? Once the unvaccinated get the SARS2 virus they get immunity and are less likely to spread it after they recover.
The vaccinated are the super spreaders. They should be tested before they are allowed to attend large indoor gatherings. Vaccine mandates are the dumbest thing ever because of that. They allow the super spreaders in to give the delta variant to one another so they can take the virus home to give it to their family and friends.
"it's effective at (and the main POINT of any vaccine) is to stop serious illness, not necessarily infection"
That is not true. People expect herd immunity to result from high rates of vaccination. In fact, people are still making the false claim that herd immunity will be achieved through vaccination. I created a thread proving that to be a myth and later you created a thread saying it was impossible as well. In other words, it is our health officials that are still lying to us.
When will you object to their lies?
@metal-brain saidWhat would be the point, I’ve objected to your constant lying on these forum’s many times but the mods just sit on their hands.
That is true for everybody, including the unvaccinated.
https://nypost.com/2021/07/08/dont-buy-the-hysteria-the-delta-variant-is-actually-less-dangerous/
The article you posted is misleading as well. If the Pfizer vaccine is kicking the delta variant why is it not stopping the spread? Once the unvaccinated get the SARS2 virus they get immunity and are less likely to ...[text shortened]... words, it is our health officials that are still lying to us.
When will you object to their lies?
We are not allowed to curse because there may be minors on the forums but the likes of you can peddle your dangerous anti vaxxer and covid denier BS all day long. It’s a strange world.
04 Sep 21
@kevcvs57 saidYou are the liar. The mods know the difference between opinions and facts and how you call facts you don't like lies. Everybody knows you never prove your claims. All you do is lie and hurl ad hominem attacks to avoid debating.
What would be the point, I’ve objected to your constant lying on these forum’s many times but the mods just sit on their hands.
We are not allowed to curse because there may be minors on the forums but the likes of you can peddle your dangerous anti vaxxer and covid denier BS all day long. It’s a strange world.
In other words you are a mindless troll who is inept at debating. That is why you merely troll and never prove a damn thing! The moderators notice too because you have been doing it for so long.