The Zombies of American City Streets, Philadelphia Edition

@wildgrass said
Those two things are linked, as you know. We can't stop all crime, and don't have unlimited resources.

- traffic cams to enforce running red lights and speeding?
- more IRS to enforce tax laws?
- more drug dogs?

Earl brought up that narcan costs $139 to taxpayers.

drug dogs, more police units, cameras, enforcement, is much much more expensive.

The only one with a good ROI for taxpayers is IRS agents. So of course the fiscally responsible party is against it

Siccing the troops on drug users and low level dealers is a lot more acceptable to right wingers than trying to collect from rich tax cheats.

@no1marauder said
Siccing the troops on drug users and low level dealers is a lot more acceptable to right wingers than trying to collect from rich tax cheats.

Riiiiiight. So it's ok to break some laws.

@wildgrass said
Riiiiiight. So it's ok to break some laws.

If you haven't read this book, you really should: https://www.routledge.com/The-Rich-Get-Richer-and-the-Poor-Get-Prison-Thinking-Critically-About-Class/Reiman-Leighton/p/book/9780367231798

@earl-of-trumps said
*Now* you are making it political and causing debate

You don’t think it was mott that started that with his really stupid and partisan post about libs being the cause.

@wildgrass said
Your video obviously does not address this. Rich people who want to buy $1billion stadiums cost way more money to tax payers than these folks.

your analysis does not count the tax money and other revenues generated by these stadiums, why is that?

@wildgrass said
Those two things are linked, as you know. We can't stop all crime, and don't have unlimited resources.

- traffic cams to enforce running red lights and speeding?
- more IRS to enforce tax laws?
- more drug dogs?

Earl brought up that narcan costs $139 to taxpayers.

drug dogs, more police units, cameras, enforcement, is much much more expensive.

The only one with a good ROI for taxpayers is IRS agents. So of course the fiscally responsible party is against it

LOL…to stupid to reply to

@mott-the-hoople said
your analysis does not count the tax money and other revenues generated by these stadiums, why is that?

.. because it's not relevant. We're not communists.

@wildgrass said
.. because it's not relevant. We're not communists.

LOL …return on investment is not relevant?
no wonder you are constantly begging the govt for money

@mott-the-hoople said
LOL …return on investment is not relevant?
no wonder you are constantly begging the govt for money

Consider the Milwaukee bucks. They had a stadium but the owner wanted a new shiny one. The taxpayer cost was $250 million to build a new one a few hundred feet away from the other stadium that was working perfectly fine. There's no possible economic voodoo math showing that new stadium would add that kind of return in tax revenue . It's not possible unless you add the element of extortion.

he didn't need it, he wanted it. Tax revenue poured in. And that's just one example out of hundreds. One billionaire bilks/steals/blackmails state taxpayers out of $250 million and we're upset about drug addicts being given free narcan?

I'm not in general favor of govts giving away free stuff. But in fixing the problem let's get the biggest leeches first. The bucks owner is worse for Wisconsin taxpayers that 10,000 drug addicts.

@wildgrass said
Consider the Milwaukee bucks. They had a stadium but the owner wanted a new shiny one. The taxpayer cost was $250 million to build a new one a few hundred feet away from the other stadium that was working perfectly fine. There's no possible economic voodoo math showing that new stadium would add that kind of return in tax revenue . It's not possible unless you add the eleme ...[text shortened]... he biggest leeches first. The bucks owner is worse for Wisconsin taxpayers that 10,000 drug addicts.

but you dont say a word against giving ukraine 100 billion

@mott-the-hoople said
but you dont say a word against giving ukraine 100 billion

i do, actually. We overspend on all overseas defense.

Do you have any argument to support distributing hard earned tax dollars to fund vanity projects for billionaires?

@wildgrass said
i do, actually. We overspend on all overseas defense.

Do you have any argument to support distributing hard earned tax dollars to fund vanity projects for billionaires?

Tax money is blown in many different ways, I am against all people getting taxpayer money the do not deserve it.

I think you err when you suggest it is republicans that do this.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/03/31/nfl-stadiums-taxpayer-funded-buffalo-bills/7217852001/

@no1marauder said
If you haven't read this book, you really should: https://www.routledge.com/The-Rich-Get-Richer-and-the-Poor-Get-Prison-Thinking-Critically-About-Class/Reiman-Leighton/p/book/9780367231798

Gee...

Ya think it is because rich people are smart and poor people are dumb?

@earl-of-trumps said
Gee...

Ya think it is because rich people are smart and poor people are dumb?

No, I don't.

@earl-of-trumps said
Gee...

Ya think it is because rich people are smart and poor people are dumb?

No. Have you ever heard the expression "it's who you know"? That's a real thing.