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    07 Sep '18 21:462 edits
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/couple-allegedly-spent-money-raised-161446762.html

    So this couple takes it upon themselves to help a homeless person who is on drugs. They then create a "Go fund me account" to help, and wind up with a large pot of money to distribute to the homeless person. However, they assess that they only need to give him $25,000 of the some $300,000 raised, so they kept the rest for themselves. After all, he will only use it on drugs, right?

    Just take Social Security. The government raises the money for our retirement, but then steal from it and will later decide if they should pay it.

    The only difference is, the couple will probably go to jail, as where Congressmen like McCain will be deified as a god when they pass.
  2. Behind the scenes
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    08 Sep '18 00:383 edits
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/couple-allegedly-spent-money-raised-161446762.html

    So this couple takes it upon themselves to help a homeless person who is on drugs. They then create a "Go fund me account" to help, and wind up with a large pot of money to distribute to the homeless person. However, they assess that they only need to give him $25,000 of the som ...[text shortened]... l probably go to jail, as where Congressmen like McCain will be deified as a god when they pass.
    This might be difficult for you to comprehend, but there is a modest difference between giving money to a person with a drug addiction problem, that they've not earned, and giving BACK the money working class people have paid into Medicare accounts via decades of productive work, 98% of whom do not have drug problems.

    Regarding John McCain, I would suggest unless you walk a mile in someone else's shoes, and experience what they have you have not the slightest idea of what your yapping about. 😳So, when your yapping is making you look like an extreme fool (as it does now) I'd humbly suggest you consider engaging your little pea brain before you write something this idiotic again. 🤔
  3. SubscriberWajoma
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    08 Sep '18 00:45
    Originally posted by @mchill
    This might be difficult for you to comprehend, but there is a modest difference between giving money to a person with a drug addiction problem, and giving BACK the money working class people have paid into Medicare accounts via decades of productive work, 98% of whom do not have drug problems.

    Regarding John McCain, I would suggest unless you walk a mil ...[text shortened]... and experience what they have you have not the slightest idea of what your yapping about. 😳
    It is you that struggle with comprehension.

    The point was not the money going to drug addicts (although goobermint do take money off productive people to help drug addicts with their own bad choices) The point was taking the money under the pretense of doing some good or other and then a good part of that money being diverted.

    And this is an extremely accurate analogy that will be lost on state worshipers.
  4. Subscriberno1marauder
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    08 Sep '18 01:48
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    It is you that struggle with comprehension.

    The point was not the money going to drug addicts (although goobermint do take money off productive people to help drug addicts with their own bad choices) The point was taking the money under the pretense of doing some good or other and then a good part of that money being diverted.

    And this is an extremely accurate analogy that will be lost on state worshipers.
    Doesn't the fact that Social Security has paid every penny to every beneficiary ever promised ruin the "extremely accurate analogy"?
  5. SubscriberWajoma
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    08 Sep '18 04:431 edit
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Doesn't the fact that Social Security has paid every penny to every beneficiary ever promised ruin the "extremely accurate analogy"?
    Aren't promises pretty empty when a person cannot choose whether or not they accept the terms.

    No1 state worshiper 😍 big goobermint 😍

    I promise you, you have to give us that money.
  6. Subscriberno1marauder
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    08 Sep '18 05:01
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    Aren't promises pretty empty when a person cannot choose whether or not they accept the terms.

    No1 state worshiper 😍 big goobermint 😍

    I promise you, you have to give us that money.
    BROKEN RECORD ALERT

    The fact is your "accurate analogy" is anything but so you are back to your Anarcho-Capitalist Dreamworld.
  7. Standard memberSoothfast
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    08 Sep '18 05:08
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    ...so you are back to your Anarcho-Capitalist Dreamworld.
    And may the trillionaire with the biggest personal police force win!
  8. SubscriberWajoma
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    08 Sep '18 05:14
    Originally posted by @soothfast
    And may the trillionaire with the biggest personal police force win!
    And may all those that believe in SS voluntarily contribute to it.

    If it was such a good idea people will be banging down the door trying to get in on it.
  9. Subscriberno1marauder
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    08 Sep '18 06:16
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    And may all those that believe in SS voluntarily contribute to it.

    If it was such a good idea people will be banging down the door trying to get in on it.
    Did you ever figure out how Wajomastan could have any roads, electrical power, modern plumbing, etc. etc. etc.? A single landowner could veto any such system by refusing to consent to its easement use in your Anarcho-Capitalist Dreamworld.
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    08 Sep '18 06:46
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Did you ever figure out how Wajomastan could have any roads, electrical power, modern plumbing, etc. etc. etc.? A single landowner could veto any such system by refusing to consent to its easement use in your Anarcho-Capitalist Dreamworld.
    In fact, Wajoma argued that people should never be allowed to harm others without explicit consent, which would ban all the things you listed.
  11. SubscriberWajoma
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    08 Sep '18 10:431 edit
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    In fact, Wajoma argued that people should never be allowed to harm others without explicit consent, which would ban all the things you listed.
    The opposing view being: It's fine to harm people if you can convince enough others that it's for their own good. It's Ok to sacrifice other humans. And that is the justification used hundreds of times throughout history to end the lives of millions of people.
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    08 Sep '18 11:31
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Doesn't the fact that Social Security has paid every penny to every beneficiary ever promised ruin the "extremely accurate analogy"?
    What is your source of information?
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