@Earl-of-Trumps saidVictimless is an assumption. What about drug pushers?
@Rajk999
I firmly believe that there should no such crime as "victimless crime",
Otherwise the morality police can take over, ala Afghanistan and others
@Earl-of-Trumps saidthere are few things that seperate humans from animals, this is one of them
@shavixmir
Jeeeezus, don't tell me we agree for a change!?
Their body, their mind... Two consenting adults.
Why the bleep can't other "advanced" nations figure this out?
Damn right, I'm a Libertarian, and proud of it.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidso drunk driving shouldnt be a crime unless you crash and hurt someone?
@Rajk999
I firmly believe that there should no such crime as "victimless crime",
Otherwise the morality police can take over, ala Afghanistan and others
@Mott-The-Hoople saidgood question, except for one thing.
so drunk driving shouldnt be a crime unless you crash and hurt someone?
you are on public property and must comply, regardless of whether it is fair or not
@Earl-of-Trumps saidDUIs are not limited to public property…they are not even limited to driver being in the vehicle in some states
good question, except for one thing.
you are on public property and must comply, regardless of whether it is fair or not
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYou can get a DUI on a bicycle.
DUIs are not limited to public property…they are not even limited to driver being in the vehicle in some states
@Mott-The-Hoople saidMy God, are you seriously attempting a Shavixmir-retort?
proud for your mom
I should probably say: “Well done laddy.”
But you seriously lack the punctuation and poetic skill one needs to say it seriously, yet light-hearted enough, to be a running gag.
It’s the glue Mott, stop snorting the glue.
@Rajk999 saidEvery single thread, you seem very hung up about Islam.
I know, the truth is not nice. Here is a summary of a book by Bruce Bawer: While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within
The struggle for the soul of Europe today is every bit as dire and consequential as it was in the 1930s. Then, in Weimar, Germany, the center did not hold, and the light of civilization nearly went out. Today, the c ...[text shortened]... ropean cities erupted in flames.
The women wont have long to enjoy their life as sex workers.
Trend watchers are full of crap.
According to them, when reading their debunked nonsense in 2005, Western Europe would already be an Arabic speaking entity by 2025. Complete bollocks.
5-6% of the population is Islamic. Roughly the same as in the 90’s.
More than 50% of European migrants are European.
Your fear mongering is astoundingly stupid.
Come to Europe and walk around. Tell us then the size of the Islamic problem, rather than reading extremist bull-crap and imagining it’s a reflection on reality.
@shavixmir saidNonsense. We have a crime problem here. About 600 murders per year in a population of 1.4M. Thats very high, as bad as the worst areas of the world. I would be very stupid to tell you there is no problem here because I dont see it neither am I a victim. Even more stupid would be to say come here and walk around and see if you see crime. Because chances are you wont see anybody being murdered neither will you be a victim.
Every single thread, you seem very hung up about Islam.
Trend watchers are full of crap.
According to them, when reading their debunked nonsense in 2005, Western Europe would already be an Arabic speaking entity by 2025. Complete bollocks.
5-6% of the population is Islamic. Roughly the same as in the 90’s.
More than 50% of European migrants are European.
Your fea ...[text shortened]... Islamic problem, rather than reading extremist bull-crap and imagining it’s a reflection on reality.
As for your percentages, they mean nothing. London has a Muslim mayor. Scotland had a muslim premier or whatever they call their prime minister.
You know all this and yet you keep defending mass immigration which loads of people complain that it is destroying Europe.
@Earl-of-Trumps said"Do as you please as long as you don't harm, impose on, or place others at risk without their consent." 😆
@Rajk999
I firmly believe that there should no such crime as "victimless crime",
Definitions:
*Harm - obvious
*Imposition - This is like when you touch someone when they don't want it, or blare loud music at 3am, or drag your garden hose across someone's property. It's not harm exactly, but it's still a violation of the person's rights.
*Placing at risk without consent - Driving drunk; carrying a shotgun into a school; selling someone a product you say is one thing but is actually another.
Prostitution, gambling, buying drugs to get high are all pretty much victimless UNLESS there is fraud involved. Fraud can lead to any of the "prohibited" outcomes: harm, imposition, risk.
I have tried to get Libertarians to accept this, but a lot refuse. It's one of the reasons I left them.
@spruce112358 saidI know, it's sad when posting in this forum needs a glossary.
"Do as you please as long as you don't harm, impose on, or place others at risk without their consent." 😆
Definitions:
*Harm - obvious
*Imposition - This is like when you touch someone when they don't want it, or blare loud music at 3am, or drag your garden hose across someone's property. It's not harm exactly, but it's still a violation of the person's right ...[text shortened]... ave tried to get Libertarians to accept this, but a lot refuse. It's one of the reasons I left them.
You know, for the slow ones.