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This is really bad for the Forum credibility.  People read it, you know.

This is really bad for the Forum credibility. People read it, you know.

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@no1marauder said
The Hatch Act. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arlington-national-cemetery-trump-campaign-staff-incident-house-democrats-request-army-report/
The Hatch Act of 1939, An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities, is a United States federal law. Its main provision prohibits civil-service employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president and vice president.

So if Biden and KH did the same thing it would have been legal.

The act also precludes federal employees from membership in "any political organization which advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government", a provision meant to prohibit membership in organizations on the far left and far right, such as the Communist Party USA and the German-American Bund.

It is a stupid law that discriminates against the communist party. Probably unconstitutional.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
harris made those graves…next
A presidential decision made all of them. Still not cool as a campaign prop.

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@no1marauder said
Funny, Trump didn't go there on this "anniversary" in 2022 or 2023.

And these same family members gave speeches at the Republican National Convention.

I mean you guys are gullible, but can you really be that gullible?
I believe they have already proven beyond a shadow of doubt how gullible they actually are. Just like cult members would be.

-VR


@wildgrass said
A presidential decision made all of them. Still not cool as a campaign prop.
because something looks good for one side and bad for the other is not campaigning .Trump was INVITED

Do you think he should have ignored the families request?


@Mott-The-Hoople said
so respecting the wishes of grieving families is gullible?
If their wishes call for you to violate the law, you shouldn't do so.

Anyway, as I already stated, Trump could have went there without making it a campaign event by taking photos and videos he then posted on TikTok for campaign purposes.

I don't really think you're gullible enough to believe Trump didn't intend for this to be a campaign event; you're just being dishonest by denying the obvious.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
because something looks good for one side and bad for the other is not campaigning .Trump was INVITED

Do you think he should have ignored the families request?
Not ignore.

Do you think he should have ignored Arlington cemetarys request?

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@no1marauder said
The Hatch Act. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arlington-national-cemetery-trump-campaign-staff-incident-house-democrats-request-army-report/
Be aware that Hatch Act restrictions apply only to Federal employees

seems marerider is being untruthful here


https://www.justice.gov/jmd/political-activities#:~:text=All%20Department%20of%20Justice%20employees,facility%20or%20using%20federal%20property.


@wildgrass said
Not ignore.

Do you think he should have ignored Arlington cemetarys request?
Arlington did not make a request, one employee did…more than likely a liberal.

did you see the pic of a cemetery official posing for a pic with Trump?

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@no1marauder said
If their wishes call for you to violate the law, you shouldn't do so.

Anyway, as I already stated, Trump could have went there without making it a campaign event by taking photos and videos he then posted on TikTok for campaign purposes.

I don't really think you're gullible enough to believe Trump didn't intend for this to be a campaign event; you're just being dishonest by denying the obvious.
“If their wishes call for you to violate the law”

no law was violated, you are lying


@Mott-The-Hoople said
Be aware that Hatch Act restrictions apply only to Federal employees

seems marerider is being untruthful here


https://www.justice.gov/jmd/political-activities#:~:text=All%20Department%20of%20Justice%20employees,facility%20or%20using%20federal%20property.
Wrong; it also limits the use of Federal property and resources.

The Army obviously disagrees with your interpretation; the regulations made pursuant to the Hatch Act relating to military cemeteries long predate this administration.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
“If their wishes call for you to violate the law”

no law was violated, you are lying
No, the Army is according to you.


@no1marauder said
Wrong; it also limits the use of Federal property and resources.

The Army obviously disagrees with your interpretation; the regulations made pursuant to the Hatch Act relating to military cemeteries long predate this administration.
Its main provision prohibits civil-service employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president and vice president, from engaging in some forms of political activity.

It does say civil-service employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president and vice president. Trump is not a civil-service employee in the executive branch of the federal government.

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@no1marauder said
Except there were no "misrepresentations" made.

This was a campaign event pure and simple.
We can all agree that a politician is always 'running'. Jack Kemp. Nancy Pelosi, AOC were all thinking, while they were in church for godsakes, about what they would say and shake hands about on the way out.
So, would you agree also that Trump was thinking about votes when he was at this affair? You gonna say that he should have set politics aside when he went to this memorial? Does the person that represents you and your district forget about who he is politically when he is at a memorial or in church?
Give it up, man. He is as normal as apple pie.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
Arlington did not make a request, one employee did…more than likely a liberal.

did you see the pic of a cemetery official posing for a pic with Trump?
No I didnt see that.

There are very clear rules about this kind of stuff. Rules that the campaign clearly broke.


@Metal-Brain said
Its main provision prohibits civil-service employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president and vice president, from engaging in some forms of political activity.

It does say civil-service employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president and vice president. Trump is not a civil-service employee in the executive branch of the federal government.
Arlington National Cemetery is staffed and maintained by Federal employees. Using it for political purposes is making use of them for the same.

The Army's regulations were made pursuant to the Hatch Act recognizing this reality.

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