19 Apr 10
And by mad I mean pi$$ed mad. Why didn't they film her instead?
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/1986----.htm
When the world's two great propaganda systems agree on some doctrine, it requires some intellectual effort to escape its shackles. One such doctrine is that the society created by Lenin and Trotsky and molded further by Stalin and his successors has some relation to socialism in some meaningful or historically accurate sense of this concept. In fact, if there is a relation, it is the relation of contradiction.
19 Apr 10
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Originally posted by adam warlockMeh. Since you're doing a zeeblebot and just pasting a link with a selected quote I'll probably pass.
I think you're missing the point. But if you'd expand a little bit more I'll try to answer.
Edit - I haven't watched the video, but I'm probably more interested in Chomsky's opinions.
19 Apr 10
Originally posted by TeinosukeIt's a funny little dichotomy, isn't it? Obama is "socialist" - even though his policies so far place him on par with or to the right of right-wing parties in most of the industrialized world - so by that definition, almost every democratic nation in the world is "socialist". Yet when they are asking for socialism's successes, they claim there are none despite the high standard of living in many - apparently socialist - industrialized nations.
Well, according to the wild right wingers on this site, most of Europe qualifies as "socialist". And for all its problems, it's reasonably successful by international standards.
20 Apr 10
Originally posted by zeeblebotAre you going to tell them?
well, then. wouldn't that disqualify them from the list?
Or sue them for false advertising?
I think most people understand "Socialism" as a democracy with
some sort of welfare state
a policy of redistribution of wealth through taxation
legislation on markets (particularly monopolies)
and perhaps above all a fair society
a long way from Marx!!