@no1marauder saidTakes war to make peace. You are boring us with this prattle. Put it this way. To NOT war those heathens would have not led to peace, would it have?. We warred for peace. We did not war for land like Putin, nor oil like Saddam or whoever, or world power like Hitler.
I just told you, idiot. He helped Netanyahu's war on Iran, kept sending weapons to Israel to help its hyperviolent campaign against Gaza, is violating international and US law by attacking ships on the high seas, wants the US to spend more on the military than it ever has in its history and is sending troops against his own People because they are protesting his foolish ...[text shortened]... h.
What about any of that shows any commitment to the ideals Nobel specified for his Peace Prize?
You got nuthin. So you did not want us to obliterate Iran facility. I did, so you must not have. They'd be wrapping up an ICBM about name, aimed at Oregon. You have a Pacifist point of view. Can you imagine telling someone you are a pacifist in this world, all lives being at stake?
@AverageJoe1 saidThe prize always goes to good work done the previous year or earlier.
According to Alfred Nobel’s will, the Nobel Peace Prize shall be awarded to those who have “done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."
Sorry, guys. He should have won. I don't like him much myself, but it is not a personality contest.
Whic ...[text shortened]... gresses? Three categories.
This is a her or him question. You Will Not Answer It.
Pitiful
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@AverageJoe1 saidThe old saying was "Bombing for peace is like [expletive deleted] for chastity".
Takes war to make peace. You are boring us with this prattle. Put it this way. To NOT war those heathens would have not led to peace, would it have?. We warred for peace. We did not war for land like Putin, nor oil like Saddam or whoever, or world power like Hitler.
You got nuthin. So you did not want us to obliterate Iran facility. I did, so you must not ...[text shortened]... f view. Can you imagine telling someone you are a pacifist in this world, all lives being at stake?
Expecting someone to get a peace prize for bombing someone else's country is demented. By your logic, Hitler should have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939 for reducing Poland's standing army.
I think virtually everyone on this Forum but you knows I'm not a pacifist.
@no1marauder saidI did not put it in there....he did. Abolition and reduction of standing armies....Of OTHER countries. Are you actually saying that he wanted. winner of the prize to have ABOLISHED amry of its own country!?!?!?
No, I don't agree; Nobel didn't put any limiting language in his will. So you putting it in there for him is BS.
You done dug yourself a hole.
You see, it is obvious that he was saying for a NPrize candidate to have neutered other countries, and so, AvJoe did not have to add anything. Geez
YOu will disappear in a minute. Ga/AUburn coming up, that will be my reason, You will have another reason.
@Torunn saidYou could be right, I dont know that, but makes sense it is a long disseminating process. But Marauder et al have already shown their hands, that Trump did not qualify, when he most certainly would if his tenure had been timely.
The prize always goes to good work done the previous year or earlier.
This will be Maruader's escape hatch
@AverageJoe1 saidLet's see what he will accomplish this year and next.
You could be right, I dont know that, but makes sense it is a long disseminating process. But Marauder et al have already shown their hands, that Trump did not qualify, when he most certainly would if his tenure had been timely.
This will be Maruader's escape hatch
@no1marauder saidThe prize would not be 'for bombing someone's country.
The old saying was "Bombing for peace is like [expletive deleted] for chastity".
Expecting someone to get a peace prize for bombing someone else's country is demented. By your logic, Hitler should have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939 for reducing Poland's standing army.
I think virtually everyone on this Forum but you knows I'm not a pacifist.
Best example , if Truman had won it, it would not be for bombing Hiroshima, It would be for his stopping the sensleless carnage of 3 years of war, hundreds of thousand dead on both sides.
This will go over a liberal's head, but it is a fact, and it disproves your opinion that war does not lead to peace. Signing of treaty by McCarthur and Japs.
Give it up. We know you don't think trump is worth 2 cents, but you have no basis ever for saying that, it is a empty as Sohouse's suit.
@AverageJoe1 saidFrom YOUR OP:
I did not put it in there....he did. Abolition and reduction of standing armies....Of OTHER countries. Are you actually saying that he wanted. winner of the prize to have ABOLISHED amry of its own country!?!?!?
You done dug yourself a hole.
You see, it is obvious that he was saying for a NPrize candidate to have neutered other countries, and so, AvJoe did not have ...[text shortened]... l disappear in a minute. Ga/AUburn coming up, that will be my reason, You will have another reason.
" for the abolition or reduction of standing armies"
Where's the " of other countries" that you are claiming/lying about?
@AverageJoe1 saidNo one ever considered giving Truman the Nobel Peace Prize.
The prize would not be 'for bombing someone's country.
Best example , if Truman had won it, it would not be for bombing Hiroshima, It would be for his stopping the sensleless carnage of 3 years of war, hundreds of thousand dead on both sides.
This will go over a liberal's head, but it is a fact, and it disproves your opinion that war does not lead to peace. Signi ...[text shortened]... trump is worth 2 cents, but you have no basis ever for saying that, it is a empty as Sohouse's suit.
The idea is insane and pretending it is something that Alfred Nobel would have approved of is ridiculous.
@AverageJoe1 saidHe increased military spending. How does that reduce the size of our army?
According to Alfred Nobel’s will, the Nobel Peace Prize shall be awarded to those who have “done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."
Sorry, guys. He should have won. I don't like him much myself, but it is not a personality contest.
Whic ...[text shortened]... gresses? Three categories.
This is a her or him question. You Will Not Answer It.
Pitiful
@no1marauder saidOk. Everyone get ready for marauder too parse the hell out of a few little sentences to fit his scenario. He will tell us that Nobel was suggesting that a candidate, to receive consideration, would have had to bring about abolition/reduction of armies. We follow there, but Marauder is putting the USA army into the mix. On his post #11 on page 1, after he for some reason mentions funding our army, he says, and I quote… “Not exactly ‘reducing the standing army’ is he?
From YOUR OP:
" for the abolition or reduction of standing armies"
Where's the " of other countries" that you are claiming/lying about?
He is saying we should infer that trump should have reduced OUR army. Yeah Nobel could have meant that.
🤔Who thinks that?
@no1marauder saidYou sound like Suzianne when I did an analogy a few years ago on minimum wage., and said ‘let’s say that I worked at a McDonald’s and made $22 an hour”. Her response was.” you never worked at McDonald’s.!!! **
No one ever considered giving Truman the Nobel Peace Prize.
The idea is insane and pretending it is something that Alfred Nobel would have approved of is ridiculous.
Can’t you just hear her saying that, it was just so cute and totally oblivious.
Sorry you feigned missing the point. Maybe this is the beginning of your exiting this thread. We know Truman wasn’t considered, but the facts of bombing to attain peace?? Dead on, compliments AvJoe,
**. Remember my analogy,,,it was when Sunhouse etal were saying that people at McDonald’s should be paid depending on how much money they needed to live on. Living wage or something. A hamburger cook with three children makes $40 an hour, but a single guy just out of high school makes $18 an hour doing the same job. I do miss those ridiculous threads. We all cut our teeth on those.
@no1marauder saidAll over the world 🤔….i guess. Where else?
From YOUR OP:
" for the abolition or reduction of standing armies"
Where's the " of other countries" that you are claiming/lying about?
Time for you to skate.
@wildgrass saidHere’s WGrass pretending that we are talking about our army. You can’t kid a kidder wild grass.
He increased military spending. How does that reduce the size of our army?
Wild grass, we will let you go on that one. You can read more in previous posts, it is all covered