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Those dirty old LIBERALS are at it again!

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That horrible socialist President Obama is at it again. The unemployment situation continues to improve, wall street is riding high, and the overall economy continues heal from the crash of 2008. Next thing you know the housing market will start to turn around! This is simply unbearable...

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/unemployment-hits-four-low-time-break-confetti-154821290.html?desktop_view_default=true::

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Oh no, you mean there's an economin cycle?

Say it isn't so. Morons really aren't very smart.

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So when the economy is bad, it's the the fault of the president you don't like, but when the economy improves under that same president, it's a "cycle"?

You're right, morons aren't smart.

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No, when the economy is bad, it is bad. When the President wastes a trillion dollars and nothing to show for it, then that's bad.

Socialism is not the solution. It is the problem. It is the problem when either Democrats or Republicans try to put into place Socialist programs. Government taxation and spending is a net drag on the economy, just look at Europe. There is not future for Socialism, other than government bankruptcy.

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Originally posted by Eladar
No, when the economy is bad, it is bad. When the President wastes a trillion dollars and nothing to show for it, then that's bad.

Socialism is not the solution. It is the problem. It is the problem when either Democrats or Republicans try to put into place Socialist programs. Government taxation and spending is a net drag on the economy, just look at Europe. There is not future for Socialism, other than government bankruptcy.
To be fair, most of the world is in serious debt, socialist or not; and the U.S. had the world's largest debt before Obama came into office, despite the U.S.'s history of militant anti-socialist/communist beliefs.

So I don't think we can rightly pin Europe's failings on socialism.

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Originally posted by Eladar
No, when the economy is bad, it is bad. When the President wastes a trillion dollars and nothing to show for it, then that's bad.

Socialism is not the solution. It is the problem. It is the problem when either Democrats or Republicans try to put into place Socialist programs. Government taxation and spending is a net drag on the economy, just look at Europe. There is not future for Socialism, other than government bankruptcy.
The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. ”

— Franklin D. Roosevelt, April 29, 1938. Message to congress.

We are going into fascism not socialism. Obama care was written by insurance companies.

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Originally posted by Eladar
No, when the economy is bad, it is bad. When the President wastes a trillion dollars and nothing to show for it, then that's bad.

Socialism is not the solution. It is the problem. It is the problem when either Democrats or Republicans try to put into place Socialist programs. Government taxation and spending is a net drag on the economy, just look at Europe. There is not future for Socialism, other than government bankruptcy.
Are you brain-washed or just plain stoopid?

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Originally posted by Eladar
No, when the economy is bad, it is bad. When the President wastes a trillion dollars and nothing to show for it, then that's bad.

Socialism is not the solution. It is the problem. It is the problem when either Democrats or Republicans try to put into place Socialist programs. Government taxation and spending is a net drag on the economy, just look at Europe. There is not future for Socialism, other than government bankruptcy.
Yeah, just look at how Norway's large public sector has dragged down the economy to double that of the US' GDP per capita, and a net positive balance on the government's sheet.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Yeah, just look at how Norway's large public sector has dragged down the economy to double that of the US' GDP per capita, and a net positive balance on the government's sheet.
If we all had the oil that Norway did, then perhaps we could afford a bit more inefficiency.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Are you brain-washed or just plain stoopid?
It will be interesting to see how much further into debt Europe can go.

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Originally posted by Eladar
It will be interesting to see how much further into debt Europe can go.
Hopefully we will have universal defaults, the debt is crisis in capitalism not caused by social spending programs. Economics is a human construct, there are no immutable laws , for Christ's sake let's get rid of nonsense like demand and supply , the free market , market equilibrium etc etc.

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Originally posted by Eladar
If we all had the oil that Norway did, then perhaps we could afford a bit more inefficiency.
As opposed to have about four times the oil reserves that Noway has?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves

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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
As opposed to have about four times the oil reserves that Noway has?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves
Britain under Thatcher enjoyed the identical oil bonanza as Norway did. It was allowed to wash through the economy, generating inflation, increasing the value of the pound, and enhancing the financial sector, at the expense of employment in manufacturing and traditional industry which could not handle either the uncompetitive pound nor the very high interest rates used in response to inflation. The Conservatives told industry it was uncompetitive and said they were not prepared to protect "lame ducks." But they did take on the trades union movement and attack employment rights. The financial sector did not create the wealth - that came from oil - but it did very cheerfully suck it up and transform it into obscene private wealth and escalating social inequality.

Private wealth does not enhance any economy; it simply dissipates wealth in speculation and consumption. Public wealth -as in Norway - permits investment in a prosperous economy and a healthy nation.

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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
As opposed to have about four times the oil reserves that Noway has?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves
Yah, but Norway actually drills for its oil. Under Obama we'd rather buy Brazil's oil than pump our own.

Drill baby drill isn't exactly the moto of the liberals in this country.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Yah, but Norway actually drills for its oil. Under Obama we'd rather buy Brazil's oil than pump our own.

Drill baby drill isn't exactly the moto of the liberals in this country.
Except... oil production has gone UP under President Obama.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/11/12/iea-report-usa-set-to-become-number-one-oil-producer-by-2020-energy-independent-by-2035/

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/04/politics/fact-check-oil-gas

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2012/apr/09/barack-obama/barack-obama-ad-says-us-oil-production-eight-year-/

First you claim Norway has more oil (LIE) and then you claim Obama has curtailed oil production (ANOTHER LIE).

Any more arguments you just want to make up out of thin air?

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