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Oh stop 🙄
You know it was China.

Denial is a terrible perfume Duchess.

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Here, Thread 189266 Duchess claimed China's one-child policy was due to "westerners". I didn't want yet another thread hijacked by Duchess, so I kept my reply short. But I'll give a more complete response here:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/may/06/chinas-barbaric-one-child-policy

China's barbaric one-child policy

Since the Communist party came to power in 1949, it has viewed the country's population as a faceless number that it can increase or decrease as it chooses, not a society of individuals with unique desires and inviolable rights. At first, Mao Zedong encouraged large families and outlawed abortion and the use of contraception, urging women to produce offspring who would boost the workforce and the ranks of the People's Liberation Army.

Mao's reckless strategy caused China's population to double from about 500 million in 1949 to almost a billion three decades later. By the time Deng Xiaoping took over the reins in 1978 after the calamitous cultural revolution, not only was Mao dead, but so was all faith in communist ideology. Deng knew that for the party to regain legitimacy, it would have to achieve economic growth, and a small group of technocrats, headed by rocket scientist Song Jian, persuaded him that for China to meet its economic targets for the year 2000, its population would have to be restricted to 1.2 billion. The one-child policy they proposed was swiftly introduced: couples in China could have only one child, or in the countryside two if the first child was a girl. The production of children became as subject to state targets and quotas as the production of grain and steel.

Duchess' claim that "westerners" convinced China to adopt the one-child policy is false; the idea came from Chinese scientists.

Duchess also claimed that the Chinese were too poor to bread selectively breed in favor of males. This is also false. From the article:

Female infanticide and sex-selective abortions are one of the many unintended consequences of the one-child policy. For every 118 boys in China, there are now only 100 girls.

It should also be pointed out that even if Duchess' false claim that westerners influenced China's one-child policy were true, China's government is still responsible for their own decisions.

In short:

The Chinese government was both responsible for it's own population crisis and China was responsible for it's detrimental one-child policy as a fix for it's own mistake.

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Excellent! And your article is right from.. [drum roll].... The Guardian! 😆

I want to see the sources contested this time lol

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An anti-White, anti-Western, bigoted troll exclaims:
"Western media shows an abysmal lack of historical and social context on China."

And this is the SAME bigot that has bombed this forum with posts proclaiming to all how experienced the
Western White people are with slavery and racism. The bigoted liar now claims that Westerners
just don't have the experience to Judge China.

What a fraud, what a phony.

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From the Guardian article:

A small group of technocrats, headed by rocket scientist Song Jian, persuaded [Deng] that for China to meet its economic targets for the year 2000, its population would have to be restricted to 1.2 billion. The one-child policy they proposed was swiftly introduced

China has no one to blame but itself.

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They reached that decision, as the Guardian link shows, from the efforts of Chinese rocket scientist, Song Jian.

http://kinea.media/en/science-technology/song-jian-equation-one-child-policy

He understood that his discipline, optimal control theory, could be applied in an innovative way to predicting and, why not, controlling population growth.

Back in China, he organised a team of mathematicians and engineers that devised a population growth model. Like all models, this one aimed at representing reality in mathematical terms as a means to make predictions; in that case, the goal was to project an estimate of the evolution of Chinese population over the next century according to a birth rate imposed to the whole of society


The one-child policy was the brainchild of a Chinese scientist who lead a team of researchers that concluded the one-child policy was the best course of action.

No matter how much Muslim-genocide apologist Duchess screeches, the facts clearly show her claims are false.

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Very well spoken, vivify. Facts are hard, sometimes, for racists to deal with. good luck.

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And Chinese media shows no bias?

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