15 Apr 11
American troops in Iraq, Afganistan, and elsewhere in and around the Middle East should start withdrawing, and be brought home. It's time for other countries to take responsibility for running there own affairs.
Conservatives in America need to get rid of the stupid notion that stationing American troops in other countries will "somehow" make America more secure...it won't!
America's military machine is stretched too thin as it is. It's time to take American troops out of harms way, to rebuild damanged equipment, to ease the burden on American taxpayers, and use some of the savings to pay down the deficit. It's time to end America's little "wild west show"!
15 Apr 11
Originally posted by bill718I thought that society as whole progressed from Vietnam protests directed at soldiers. I am sure soldiers who sacrifice their lives for the freedom of everyone appreciate when ignorant self-proclaimed liberals look at their efforts as a "wild west show"
American troops in Iraq, Afganistan, and elsewhere in and around the Middle East should start withdrawing, and be brought home. It's time for other countries to take responsibility for running there own affairs.
Conservatives in America need to get rid of the stupid notion that stationing American troops in other countries will "somehow" make America ...[text shortened]... e savings to pay down the deficit. It's time to end America's little "wild west show"!
15 Apr 11
Originally posted by quackquackWell quacky...if you bothered to read all of my post (which you clearly have not), you'd realize this was not directed at soldiers, but rather to the idiots that sent them needlessly into harms way to begin with. I can think of no better way to "support the troops" than to make sure they they don't die a needless death.....get it???😉
I thought that society as whole progressed from Vietnam protests directed at soldiers. I am sure soldiers who sacrifice their lives for the freedom of everyone appreciate when ignorant self-proclaimed liberals look at their efforts as a "wild west show"
15 Apr 11
Originally posted by quackquackExcuse me for being so bold (and perhaps ungrateful, yeah right) but talk us through how American "soldiers [...]sacrifice[d] their lives for the freedom of everyone". Please talk us through the "everyone" thing.
I thought that society as whole progressed from Vietnam protests directed at soldiers. I am sure soldiers who sacrifice their lives for the freedom of everyone appreciate when ignorant self-proclaimed liberals look at their efforts as a "wild west show"
15 Apr 11
Originally posted by FMFI am curious, as well, as to how irrelevant occupations/invasions ensure our freedoms. Seems to me a more demanding thing- now we (the U.S.) have to pay expenses to send them over seas while limiting our number of home based troops.
Excuse me for being so bold (and perhaps ungrateful, yeah right) but talk us through how American "soldiers [...]sacrifice[d] their lives for the freedom of everyone". Please talk us through the "everyone" thing.
15 Apr 11
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For the sake of some, I am sorry the world does not give you the option the decline the advantages US forces have provided.
You could choose to live under Nazi occupation or maybe Arab fundamentalist terrorism and be subject to continual 9/11 type attacks.
Personally I'd opt for the world the way it is and gave my thanks to US soldiers (and otherss across the world as well) who helped provide it
15 Apr 11
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Originally posted by quackquackWhat? You say I could choose to live under Nazi occupation? Or maybe Arab fundamentalist terrorism and be subject to continual 9/11 type attacks? Oh ya?
For the sake of some, I am sorry the world does not give you the option the decline the advantages US forces have provided.
I am British living in South East Asia. Talk me through how American "soldiers [...]sacrifice[d] their lives for the freedom of everyone".
Please talk me through this "everyone" thing you talk of.
15 Apr 11
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Originally posted by quackquackNo doubt there has been a lot of good done by U.S. forces over the years.*
For the sake of some, I am sorry the world does not give you the option the decline the advantages US forces have provided.
You could choose to live under Nazi occupation or maybe Arab fundamentalist terrorism and be subject to continual 9/11 type attacks.
Personally I'd opt for the world the way it is and gave my thanks to US soldiers (and otherss across the world as well) who helped provide it
At the same time, the same government has done quite a lot of oppressive intervention. Latin America comes to mind. Does sparking civil wars in foreign countries protect our freedoms?
*edit: let's not underemphasize this point, but this is a separate discussion
15 Apr 11
Originally posted by FMFIf we want to take credit for that, I suppose the best argument is the defeat of Japan in WWII. Also keeping the commies contained on the mainland.
What? You say I could choose to live under Nazi occupation? Or maybe Arab fundamentalist terrorism and be subject to continual 9/11 type attacks? Oh ya?
I am British living in South East Asia. Talk me through how American "soldiers [...]sacrifice[d] their lives for the freedom of everyone".
Please talk me through this "everyone" thing you talk of.
But that's only from the America-centric perspective.
15 Apr 11
Originally posted by AThousandYoungSo who did you back in Indonesia in WWII? At the end you backed the British to hold the fort while the Dutch came back to resume their colonial rule, but - when it didn't happen quick enough - you sanctioned the re-arming of the Japanese while we waited for the Dutch? Er... what was World War II about again?
If we want to take credit for that, I suppose the best argument is the defeat of Japan in WWII.
15 Apr 11
Originally posted by FMFThey bombed Pearl Harbor, we nuked them, we take credit for everyone's safety in the Pacific from then on. Don't you know how this works?!
So who did you back in Indonesia in WWII? At the end you backed the British to hold the fort while the Dutch came back to resume their colonial rule, but - when it didn't happen quick enough - you sanctioned the re-arming of the Japanese while we waited for the Dutch? Er... what was World War II about again?
15 Apr 11
Originally posted by quackquackThe U.S. backed Soeharto. Do I have to "show some appreciation" for that? Are you for real?
No one can be perfect so it really makes no sense to separate what you like from what you don't.
If you really believe that you'd be better off without US contributions than say that, if not show some appreciation.
15 Apr 11
Originally posted by quackquackI like democracy and I don't like dictatorship. Does it really make "no sense" to say I like one and I don't like the other? The U.S. gave us dictatorship. You want me to be grateful to you?
No one can be perfect so it really makes no sense to separate what you like from what you don't.