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  1. Zugzwang
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    11 Nov '20 02:38
    Some Americans have speculated that Russia (led by Putin) has a
    secret hold on President Trump and has been pulling some strings to
    have him do Russia's bidding, without making it appear too obvious.

    After Trump has left office, he would have little usefulness to Russia.
    So will President Trump--with hardly anything left to lose--order
    the US military and intelligence establishments to hand over their
    deepest secrets to Russia? Would they obey their commander-in-chief?

    If President Trump attempts that, it may confirm the hypothesis
    that he was being blackmailed into being an agent for Russia.
  2. SubscriberEarl of Trumps
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    11 Nov '20 03:04
    @duchess64 said
    Some Americans have speculated that Russia (led by Putin) has a
    secret hold on President Trump and has been pulling some strings to
    have him do Russia's bidding, without making it appear too obvious.

    After Trump has left office, he would have little usefulness to Russia.
    So will President Trump--with hardly anything left to lose--order
    the US military and intelligenc ...[text shortened]... s that, it may confirm the hypothesis
    that he was being blackmailed into being an agent for Russia.
    you're out of your nitwit mind.
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    11 Nov '20 03:35
    @Duchess64

    In time you will be the crazy homeless lady who is always yelling 🤔
  5. Standard memberAThousandYoung
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    11 Nov '20 03:44
    @duchess64 said
    Some Americans have speculated that Russia (led by Putin) has a
    secret hold on President Trump and has been pulling some strings to
    have him do Russia's bidding, without making it appear too obvious.

    After Trump has left office, he would have little usefulness to Russia.
    So will President Trump--with hardly anything left to lose--order
    the US military and intelligenc ...[text shortened]... s that, it may confirm the hypothesis
    that he was being blackmailed into being an agent for Russia.
    He can still run for President.
  6. Subscribershavixmir
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    11 Nov '20 04:17
    @duchess64 said
    Some Americans have speculated that Russia (led by Putin) has a
    secret hold on President Trump and has been pulling some strings to
    have him do Russia's bidding, without making it appear too obvious.

    After Trump has left office, he would have little usefulness to Russia.
    So will President Trump--with hardly anything left to lose--order
    the US military and intelligenc ...[text shortened]... s that, it may confirm the hypothesis
    that he was being blackmailed into being an agent for Russia.
    He could order the intelligence services to do it and the intelligence services won’t abide.

    Their protocols should stop them committing treason.
  7. Standard membermchill
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    11 Nov '20 05:261 edit
    @duchess64 said
    Some Americans have speculated that Russia (led by Putin) has a
    secret hold on President Trump and has been pulling some strings to
    have him do Russia's bidding, without making it appear too obvious.

    After Trump has left office, he would have little usefulness to Russia.
    So will President Trump--with hardly anything left to lose--order
    the US military and intelligenc ...[text shortened]... s that, it may confirm the hypothesis
    that he was being blackmailed into being an agent for Russia.
    After Trump has left office, he would have little usefulness to Russia. So will President Trump--with hardly anything left to lose--order the US military and intelligence establishments to hand over their deepest secrets to Russia? Would they obey their commander-in-chief?

    I don't think so - Ordering the US military to do such a thing would raise a number of red flags, and I highly doubt the US military would obey such an order. Trump could however try to steal such information and sell it later on. Donald Trump has guaranteed millions in loans that he has little chance to repay, so I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to sell American secrets, especially since Mother Russia's collection methods are frequently on the harsh side. 😉
  8. Zugzwang
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    11 Nov '20 05:37
    @mchill said
    After Trump has left office, he would have little usefulness to Russia. So will President Trump--with hardly anything left to lose--order the US military and intelligence establishments to hand over their deepest secrets to Russia? Would they obey their commander-in-chief?

    I don't think so - Ordering the US military to do such a thing would raise a number of red flags, and ...[text shortened]... n secrets, especially since Mother Russia's collection methods are frequently on the harsh side. 😉
    My question was largely rhetorical. As commander-in-chief, President Trump would
    have been briefed (if he can still remember) about the USA's deepest secrets.
    Once out of office, he could attempt to sell them quietly to the highest bidders.

    If President Trump were to issue apparently 'treasonous' orders now, then I expect
    that military leaders could feign obedience while procrastinating long enough for
    President Biden to rescind those orders.
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    11 Nov '20 06:25
    @duchess64 said
    Some Americans have speculated that Russia (led by Putin) has a
    secret hold on President Trump and has been pulling some strings to
    have him do Russia's bidding, without making it appear too obvious.

    After Trump has left office, he would have little usefulness to Russia.
    So will President Trump--with hardly anything left to lose--order
    the US military and intelligenc ...[text shortened]... s that, it may confirm the hypothesis
    that he was being blackmailed into being an agent for Russia.
    Where is your evidence?
  10. Zugzwang
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    11 Nov '20 06:45
    @metal-brain said
    Where is your evidence?
    Abysmal reading comprehension strikes again!

    "Some Americans have speculated that Russia (led by Putin) has a
    secret hold on President Trump and has been pulling some strings to
    have him do Russia's bidding, without making it appear too obvious."

    I did NOT write that I necessarily agreed with this hypothesis,

    For years, however, at least several Americans here (e,g. Sonhouse) have
    been acting as if it's beyond doubt that Donald Trump's an agent for Russia.
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