Originally posted by sh76
IF there is a major impending climate catastrophe, then the ONLY answer is for EVERYONE to get off their duffs and build and use clean technologies starting NOW and, of course to reduce consumption (as uzless will no doubt tell us). A mild and loophole filled cap and trade, which will serve to do little more than transfer wealth from developed nations to developing nations, is a half-assed solution, at best (more like a one tenth-assed solution).
You hitting on a variation on a theme that is being played down under by our right wing in politics.
They agree there is a problem, but will not support the incumbent governments attempt to address the problem, claiming disingenuously that it does not go far enough, and that for the problem to be properly addressed we have to do more than the governments proposed reduction targets.
Then almost without a pause they go on to argue that unless the rest of the world all sign up as one, its futile for us to sign on to any program that will have the scope to systematically address the problem and once in place can be adjusted to make a real difference. No they wont agree to that at all! No their solution, is to wait and do nothing and withdraw any support that attempts to put in place the mechanism that can actually start managing the problem. No their solution is to continually bitch from the sidelines as to how much more we should be doing.
Its beyond insane. Their objection constitutes the biggest load of shortsighted cock ever being argued ever and yet they get away with it because a lot of people are stupid and are willing to swallow this argument hook line and sinker. And when we in the developed nations who wait till the last minute find that in attempting to avoid this inevitability it will actually cost our economies a lot more to adjust to the new global regulatory framework that will govern carbon consumption who they going to blame then. Its not what we lose now, its the potential of economic activity and advantage we will lose far into the future by not being at the forefront of this change, where as we lag on this issue others will exploit the opportunities presented to them.
Check out the two links below and wrok out that the Chinese people themselves are absolutely only to aware of what high carbon emission can do to their quality of life and unacceptable damage to their environment. Anyone remember the Chinese Olympics and what their skyline looked like? Say no more right!
What do you reckon will happen if China uses its manufacturing base and gets to take the lead on this and as we fall behind you find that their economic weight disadvantages us going forward.
As ever as this becomes more and more political, the truth of it will hardly matter any more. Climate change deniers/skeptics will find themselves like Luddites trying to resist the onslaught to their way of life that industrialization threatened. Adapting to a low carbon future sooner rather than later will help segue us well into the future. Holding firm will only stave off the inevitable with disastrous consequences for the nations who believe they can stare down this coming change.