'From January 1 2014 Romanian and Bulgarian migrants will have free access to Britain’s labour market following the lifting of travel restrictions put in place when their countries joined the EU in 2007. '
Taken from www.telegraph.co.uk
There was a recent headline saying 98% of Scots (not sure which 98% ) oppose this, some fear a 'flood'. Apparently Polish are the biggest community of recent migrants to Scotland, second is Pakistan.
My grandparents were partly Lithuanian, so guess I should say its great. But I think there is a catch for the UK; They say don't mention the war but it is relevant to modern migration; Eastern Europeans see Germanic Countries as hostile, but the UK as the land of jobs and hospitality. Given the choice they all come here. So effectively this EU enlargement is a UK Romania n Bulgaria deal.
There is a good case that the more migrants the more jobs, they give a flexibility in the economy, make it easy to hire. This is true down south where you have migrants you have recruitment consultants, some just walk in and get a job type of places. Scotland really has a lack of these, its a shame. So I say we should welcome this, but not sure others will be so keen?
Originally posted by e4chrisWhat's your evidence that modern Eastern Europeans will prefer the UK to Germany?
They say don't mention the war but it is relevant to modern migration; Eastern Europeans see Germanic Countries as hostile, but the UK as the land of jobs and hospitality. Given the choice they all come here. So effectively this EU enlargement is a UK Romania n Bulgaria deal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Germany
The Polish minority in Germany, is the second largest Polish minority (Polonia) in the world and the biggest in Europe. Estimates of the number of Poles living in Germany vary from 1.5 million[2] to about 2 million[3] and with up to three million people living that might be of Polish descent, although many of them have lost their ancestors' identity. According to the latest census, there are approximately 1.5 million Poles in Germany.
That's roughly three times as many as the 500,000 Poles in the UK.
In any case, both Romania and Bulgaria were Axis powers for most of the war, until they sensibly changed sides after seeing which way the wind was blowing.
Originally posted by TeinosukeI wondered if someone might refute that, maybe its a misconception, but if you lived in Eastern Europe what second language would you learn?
What's your evidence that modern Eastern Europeans will prefer the UK to Germany?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Germany
[i]The Polish minority in Germany, is the second largest Polish minority (Polonia) in the world and the biggest in Europe. Estimates of the number of Poles living in Germany vary from 1.5 million[2] to about 2 million[3] and ...[text shortened]... most of the war, until they sensibly changed sides after seeing which way the wind was blowing.
Did you know Prince Charles has a House in Transylvania?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-charles/9888791/Transylvanian-manager-of-Prince-Charles-homes-defends-Romania.html
Talks about peoples misconceptions of the country, it looks like a good tourist spot in places, really beautiful.
This is the EU dictating Britain's immigration policy, it will have big impact on us. The common wealth is as much use as the EU to us. Polish migrants when they first arrived with the EU, no one said a bad word, the only criticism was them being too good.
But Romania was much rougher under communism, it has crime problems that were less of a problem in Poland, the horse meat scandal an example, but the shops that sold it are just a guilty.
To be honest I think its cool they are joining the EU like this but that's not what the papers say...
The post that was quoted here has been removedSome of my friends have run TEFL courses, I don't know of their being a French or German version (probably is but not as popular). I think the UK is seeded in the minds of many people wanting to change country because our English culture gets everywhere, people would probably rather move to the US, I want to sometimes, but its much harder to get in. The UK must be the easiest English speaking country to move too. And you can see the results, its like having the British Empire based in London!
That's very good but you get the papers shouting 'too many' every time the EU adds a country. I think they are starting to have a point. Londons property market has totally lost pace with its workforce, its way too expensive to live in because of too much demand, you'd be a fool to take a low wage there and migrants will accept anything making it worse. But for the UK in general I buy the migrants means jobs argument, they're a good thing.
The post that was quoted here has been removedI once attended an interview with the Hungarian film director Miklos Jancso, who was born in 1921. He apologised at the beginning for having to speak through an interpreter, as he spoke no English. "When I was growing up," he said, "we all thought the world language was going to be French." I reflected at the time that this placed him very precisely as a member of the interwar generation in Hungary. Had he been twenty-five years older, his second language would almost certainly have been German. Had he been twenty-five years younger, it would almost certainly have been Russian.
