Just read this on the beeb.
I’ve never heard of this before. It’s a serious WTF article.
Has anybody heard of this? Got any opinions about it?
Well worth the read. Completely bizarre.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57442175
"My parents got me kidnapped and dropped off in the middle of the mountains," 21-year-old Daniel says in a TikTok video watched more than a million times.
As a teenager, Daniel suffered anxiety and depression. He was 15 and had recently come out as gay when he self-harmed so severely that he required hospital care. It was in hospital that he was shaken awake in the middle of the night by two men. They told him the process could be easy or hard - depending on how much he resisted. With little fight left in him, Daniel went with the pair. But when he asked a stranger if he could use a telephone to call his parents on a brief stop for food, he says the escorts threatened him with handcuffs.
The size of the industry and its yearly turnover of teenagers across the US remains elusive because there is no federal regulator monitoring it.
The US Government Accountability Office was tasked with investigating allegations of neglect and abuse across the industry in 2007, but found it difficult to grasp the national picture due to irregular licensing rules at the state level and ambiguity surrounding the labels facilities use to describe themselves - like boot camps or therapeutic boarding schools.
Their investigators found thousands of allegations of abuse and examined a number of deaths at behavioural programmes across the US and in American-owned businesses operating abroad. Their reports raised concerns about the level of training required of staff as well as what they described as deceptive and questionable marketing practices aimed at parents.
@shavixmir
Scary stuff indeed. I see two issues here: an almost completely unregulated unmonitored industry, and a lot of teens who are troubled and parents who don’t have the time or competence to deal w their kids. Maybe someone should try to find out why so many teens are troubled, despite or perhaps because of having so much luxury and comfort. Then these discipline camps wouldn’t flourish.
@moonbus saidPerhaps they are troubled due to being raised by parents who would have them kidnapped from their hospital bed in the middle of the night.
@shavixmir
Scary stuff indeed. I see two issues here: an almost completely unregulated unmonitored industry, and a lot of teens who are troubled and parents who don’t have the time or competence to deal w their kids. Maybe someone should try to find out why so many teens are troubled, despite or perhaps because of having so much luxury and comfort. Then these discipline camps wouldn’t flourish.
The troubles seemed to begin when he came out as gay to his parents, one can only imagine their response to not having the perfect boy child.
But in general teens should have enough autonomous human rights to make this sort of strategy illegal.
@shavixmir saidDaniel looks like the typical spoilt brat depicted in American sitcoms and movies. At 21 he should not be in his parents house either. . Grow up, get a job, go do your thing, leave home. Obviously the parents cannot handle him so they hire people who can.
Just read this on the beeb.
I’ve never heard of this before. It’s a serious WTF article.
Has anybody heard of this? Got any opinions about it?
Well worth the read. Completely bizarre.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57442175
"My parents got me kidnapped and dropped off in the middle of the mountains," 21-year-old Daniel says in a TikTok video watched mor ...[text shortened]... f as well as what they described as deceptive and questionable marketing practices aimed at parents.
There is nothing shocking about this at all. It is the natural consequence of poor parenting which has thrown away the bible teaching about bringing up children. Train them, correct them, be a good example to them, punish them [this includes corporal punishment when necessary], make them lean to do household chores.
People have seen videos of American kids conduct and behaviour for the last few decades and it is weird that parents tolerate such behaviour. .. rolling around in Walmart on the ground when they cannot have their way, shouting and screaming, hitting parents, cursing parents. In my country they would get a slap that would send them into the next century.
I remember way back in 1997 I carried my first daughter to Disney and people told me to avoid the summer months when American schools are out and kids behave like hogs. Could not believe it, and did not repeat it either. This is also often depicted in movies and sitcoms as well.
@Rajk999
To a certain extent, I agree: children who fail to launch are almost always a symptom of failed parenting. I have seen at least two generations grow up with a mindest of almost unlimited personal entitlement and no sense of social obligation whatever: they seem to think the universe OWES them another iPhone every time a new one comes onto the market and that BratChat OWES them a following of millions of imaginary friends who LIKE them. Utter hogwash. Grow up, I say!
I have to disagree with you about corporal punishment , however. I think it is unacceptable.
@moonbus saidFor sure corporal punishment is unacceptable, but its all relative. Compared the list of ailments created by poor discipline in children and teens - from drugs to murders [even kiiling their own parents], armed roberies, gun violence. I think corporal punishment [recommended by God] is just fine. Oh, those child psychologists and behavior therapists and the whole host of fake specialists who pretend to know how to fix these things, can all fired and made to do some real work, because they are sure failing
@Rajk999
To a certain extent, I agree: children who fail to launch are almost always a symptom of failed parenting. I have seen at least two generations grow up with a mindest of almost unlimited personal entitlement and no sense of social obligation whatever: they seem to think the universe OWES them another iPhone every time a new one comes onto the market and that BratC ...[text shortened]... say!
I have to disagree with you about corporal punishment , however. I think it is unacceptable.
@rajk999 saidThe God you believe was a particularly vicious, sadistic monster (ask the folks in Jericho or the Midianites) so his child rearing advice shouldn't be adopted in any civilized society.
For sure corporal punishment is unacceptable, but its all relative. Compared the list of ailments created by poor discipline in children and teens - from drugs to murders [even kiiling their own parents], armed roberies, gun violence. I think corporal punishment [recommended by God] is just fine. Oh, those child psychologists and behavior therapists and the whole host of fak ...[text shortened]... how to fix these things, can all fired and made to do some real work, because they are sure failing
@no1marauder saidThe sadistic monsters are the parents, teachers, church leaders, child psychiatrists who continue to fail and continue to pretend that they are a success when in fact they produce viscous, sick and demented children who plague the society. Some are killers terrorising neighborhoods
The God you believe was a particularly vicious, sadistic monster (ask the folks in Jericho or the Midianites) so his child rearing advice shouldn't be adopted in any civilized society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_Kids
@shavixmir saidThe Troubled Teen Industry is happy you jokers believe that .. 😀
THERE IS NO GOD!
Take fairytales to the spirituality forum, thanks.