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  1. Behind the scenes
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    08 Jul '18 01:192 edits
    As Robert Mueller's investigation produce more and and more guilty pleas from his former staff members and the indictments pile up, Donald Trump in his desperation, is turning to blaming the "deep state" for his legal woes. This pathetic attempt at deflecting guilt is working with his followers because Trump knows these weak minded people have a deep distrust of the Federal Government, so he doesn't have to name the folks in this deep state, nor does he have to give details of what they are supposed to be doing. It's a sad situation when such a large percentage of our population is so ignorant of the basics of civics, they'll blindly accept these lies. I highly doubt this deflection will work in the real world, but if Trump is convicted of any serious crimes, we'll be left with 35%+ of our population convinced he was framed by shadowy people who simply don't exist.

    http://www.newsweek.com/putin-cajoles-trump-sharing-grievances-about-fake-news-and-deep-state-report-1012899

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/trump-deep-state-coup-hysteria
  2. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    08 Jul '18 02:08
    More and more guilty pleas? What's the new stuff?

    Are you still parading out a guy pleading guilty to unrelated financial crimes associated with lobbying and tax evasion and random inconsistencies in testimony resulting in perjury charges as these grandiose victories proving the ties to Russia?

    Do we really have to go through that song and dance again?
  3. Behind the scenes
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    08 Jul '18 02:242 edits
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    More and more guilty pleas? What's the new stuff?

    Are you still parading out a guy pleading guilty to unrelated financial crimes associated with lobbying and tax evasion and random inconsistencies in testimony resulting in perjury charges as these grandiose victories proving the ties to Russia?

    Do we really have to go through that song and dance again?
    22 people and companies charged

    75 criminal charges brought so far

    5 guilty pleas



    Clearly you need to do some homework there, skippy!




    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/17/heres-what-the-special-counsel-has-done-after-one-full-year.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/17/politics/one-year-robert-mueller-russia-investigation-special-counsel/index.html

    http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-mueller-investigation-one-year/
  4. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    08 Jul '18 02:26
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    More and more guilty pleas? What's the new stuff?

    Are you still parading out a guy pleading guilty to unrelated financial crimes associated with lobbying and tax evasion and random inconsistencies in testimony resulting in perjury charges as these grandiose victories proving the ties to Russia?

    Do we really have to go through that song and dance again?
    Yes, if the guy's been dancing with Trump.
  5. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    08 Jul '18 02:37
    Imagine pointing to these lawfare victories over your political opponents as signs of corruption when the leading candidate of the "resistance" to Trump was accepting multiple millions of dollars from Arab princes & Ukrainian bankers andis part of this great political dynasty famous for turning the White House into a hotel to repay big donors.


    This stuff only makes sense to you if you think that this occurs on literally one side.

    These guys are literally getting charged with stuff that everyon does -- and if you do not believe that, I think you are a bit naive.
  6. Germany
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    08 Jul '18 07:15
    Originally posted by @philokalia

    These guys are literally getting charged with stuff that everyon does -- and if you do not believe that, I think you are a bit naive.
    If you believe things without being aware of any evidence, it's called "paranoid" or "delusional," not whatever opposite of "naive" you had in mind.
  7. SubscriberSuzianne
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    08 Jul '18 10:23
    Originally posted by @mchill
    As Robert Mueller's investigation produce more and and more guilty pleas from his former staff members and the indictments pile up, Donald Trump in his desperation, is turning to blaming the "deep state" for his legal woes. This pathetic attempt at deflecting guilt is working with his followers because Trump knows these weak minded people have a deep distrus ...[text shortened]... p-state-report-1012899

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/trump-deep-state-coup-hysteria
    If there is a 'deep state', it's Trump and his corporate pals.
  8. SubscriberWOLFE63
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    08 Jul '18 11:10
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    Imagine pointing to these lawfare victories over your political opponents as signs of corruption when the leading candidate of the "resistance" to Trump was accepting multiple millions of dollars from Arab princes & Ukrainian bankers andis part of this great political dynasty famous for turning the White House into a hotel to repay big donors.


    This ...[text shortened]... ged with stuff that everyon does -- and if you do not believe that, I think you are a bit naive.
    Is there any evidence even possible?

    What level of exposed wrong-doing will it take for trumpians to recognize the true nature of this president?
  9. SubscriberKingDavid403
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    08 Jul '18 15:342 edits
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    More and more guilty pleas? What's the new stuff?

    Are you still parading out a guy pleading guilty to unrelated financial crimes associated with lobbying and tax evasion and random inconsistencies in testimony resulting in perjury charges as these grandiose victories proving the ties to Russia?

    Do we really have to go through that song and dance again?
    Are you still parading that Trump brought peace between North and South Korea and ended North Korea's nuclear program??? LOL, worthless dumb arse dump sheep.
  10. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    08 Jul '18 15:50
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    These guys are literally getting charged with stuff that everyon does -- and if you do not believe that, I think you are a bit naive.
    #BlackLivesMatter
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