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18 Mar 23
He says Tuesday. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-his-arrest-is-imminent-and-calls-for-protests-echoing-jan-6/ar-AA18N5o9?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=d7fa2596137f4496d47e30b7656ab869&ei=16
But there's still a Grand Jury witness to give testimony, so that seems unlikely.
I'll put my (fake) money on March 30 which has already had the following important events in US History (not that Trump in handcuffs would be as important):
March 30, 1870 - The 15th amendment goes into effect, giving black men the right to vote.
March 30, 1867 - The United States buys Alaska from Russia for $7.2 million.
March 30, 1858 - A pencil with an attached eraser is patented by Hyman L. Lipman of Philadelphia, PA. (no1: Genius! Hyman: Dammit, I'm so sick of having to find that eraser! Where could I put it? HMMMMM ..........). http://www.holidayinsights.com/history/history03.htm#:~:text=Historical%20events%20in%20the%20month%20of%20March%20by,1961%20-%20The%20U.S.%20Peace%20Corps%20was%20founded.
OK, who's in and give reasons.
18 Mar 23
@no1marauder saidApril 1 for the luls
He says Tuesday. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-his-arrest-is-imminent-and-calls-for-protests-echoing-jan-6/ar-AA18N5o9?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=d7fa2596137f4496d47e30b7656ab869&ei=16
But there's still a Grand Jury witness to give testimony, so that seems unlikely.
I'll put my (fake) money on March 30 which has already had the following important event ...[text shortened]... 0March%20by,1961%20-%20The%20U.S.%20Peace%20Corps%20was%20founded.
OK, who's in and give reasons.
@moonbus saidNo he won't. It isn't as big of a deal as you think. Guess who else violated federal disclosure laws.
@no1marauder
A warrant might be issued, but he'll skip out before it is served on him.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations
Trump will be fined for it just like Obama was. Take that billionaire! LOL
Trump said he expects to be arrested Tuesday. He can afford bail. He will be out quickly I am sure.
@metal-brain saidSomehow I think your false "whataboutism" (those were noncriminal violations) won't impress the Manhattan DA's office.
No he won't. It isn't as big of a deal as you think. Guess who else violated federal disclosure laws.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations
Trump will be fined for it just like Obama was. Take that billionaire! LOL
Trump said he expects to be arrested Tuesday. He can afford bail. He will be out quickly I am sure.
18 Mar 23
@no1marauder saidWhat makes them noncriminal violations? Didn't both Trump and HRC falsely report "legal expenses" for things other than that? Trump was paying hush money to a porn actress and HRC was paying for opposition research.
Somehow I think your false "whataboutism" (those were noncriminal violations) won't impress the Manhattan DA's office.
Neither are legal expenses as they both falsely claimed. Why is the former criminal and the latter non criminal?
19 Mar 23
@Metal-Brain
Just an elephant question ......does anyone really think jail?!?! Sonhouse, you can abstain.
Can I just vote no jail
19 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidTrump can afford good lawyers. He would be out within an hour, especially since he can prepare for it. All it would do is give him valuable publicity. It would not surprise me if he was looking forward to being arrested. Any publicity is good publicity if it is even slightly hypocritical, which this is.
@Metal-Brain
Just an elephant question ......does anyone really think jail?!?! Sonhouse, you can abstain.
Can I just vote no jail
19 Mar 23
@metal-brain saidAs usual, you don't know what you are talking about. Using campaign funds to pay for opposition research is a common and perfectly legal practice.
What makes them noncriminal violations? Didn't both Trump and HRC falsely report "legal expenses" for things other than that? Trump was paying hush money to a porn actress and HRC was paying for opposition research.
Neither are legal expenses as they both falsely claimed. Why is the former criminal and the latter non criminal?
I don't know what Trump will be indicted for. but since it's a local DA it's highly unlikely it will be for a federal charge concerning campaign finance violations.
19 Mar 23
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@no1marauder saidLOL!!!
As usual, you don't know what you are talking about. Using campaign funds to pay for opposition research is a common and perfectly legal practice.
I don't know what Trump will be indicted for. but since it's a local DA it's highly unlikely it will be for a federal charge concerning campaign finance violations.
As usual, you don't know what you are talking about. Using campaign funds to pay for opposition research is a common and perfectly legal practice only if you are reporting that is what the money is being used for. Hillary reported it as "legal services".
Trump is not in legal trouble for what he used the money for. He is in legal trouble for reporting it was used for something else. That something else is also a common and perfectly legal practice. Just ask Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew.
HRC & the DNC paid for Lawfare against Trump and Russia. The Steele dossier was used to get a FISA warrant used to surveil 2016 Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page. That is worse than paying off a porn actress to hush up.
19 Mar 23
@zahlanzi saidI’m seconding this bet.
i am betting my imaginary internet points on never.
the weak democrats will forget about this in a weird bid to "not be divisive"
because they are weak.
(i am being overly pessimistic, american politics has been depressing for quite a while now)
19 Mar 23
@metal-brain saidOK, alternative scenario:
No he won't. It isn't as big of a deal as you think. Guess who else violated federal disclosure laws.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations
Trump will be fined for it just like Obama was. Take that billionaire! LOL
Trump said he expects to be arrested Tuesday. He can afford bail. He will be out quickly I am sure.
If an indictment were issued, he would call upon his supporters to 'save the nation', similar to his speech on Jan. 6. They would come to Mar-a-Lago to surround his estate and try to prevent law enforcement agents from entering to arrest him. Some of them would be armed. There would be an angry scuffle because American police are badly trained to deal with sieges.
19 Mar 23
@metal-brain saidYour "whataboutism" remains misinformed. The payment by the Clinton Committee was actually to a law firm which then eventually used some of the funds to pay for the research, which had already been started by a right wing newspaper. So a payment to a law firm sure looks like "legal services". Eventually, there was a complaint filed by a right wing group and the Clinton Campaign settled it by paying a small fine of $8,000. There was zero evidence of criminality.
LOL!!!
As usual, you don't know what you are talking about. Using campaign funds to pay for opposition research is a common and perfectly legal practice only if you are reporting that is what the money is being used for. Hillary reported it as "legal services".
Trump is not in legal trouble for what he used the money for. He is in legal trouble for reporting it was us ...[text shortened]... 2016 Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page. That is worse than paying off a porn actress to hush up.
Your guesswork as to the basis of a possible indictment of Trump is worthless speculation. I already told you it is unlikely to involve Federal campaign violations as this investigation is by a Grand Jury impaneled by the Manhattan DA, not a US Attorney. So you're almost certainly wrong.