@no1marauder saidAlmost immediately after the Oslo Accords were signed the PLO and Hamas engaged in terrorist activity killing Jews.
The Palestinians agreed to a two State solution at Oslo more than 30 years ago:https://www.britannica.com/topic/Oslo-Accords
The 1990s saw Hamas using suicide bombings to disrupt the Oslo Accords and the peace process, aiming to weaken the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and polarize Israeli politics. Within a month of the Oslo Accords signing, Hamas launched a new series of bombings that killed twenty-six Israelis and injured many more. This violent response conveyed Hamas's position that peace and security could not be achieved "unless and until Hamas was recognized and its demands met."
In 1996, a series of devastating Hamas suicide bombings, which resulted in significant casualties and nearly half the death toll from the previous two years, is often credited with shaping the results of the 1996 Israeli general election. The bombings intensified public fear and shifted voter sentiment, contributing to Benjamin Netanyahu's victory over Shimon Peres. Netanyahu's hard-line stance on security became more appealing to voters.[20] When Netanyahu began his term, he focused his political agenda on "combating terrorism". Unlike the previous government's approach of "addressing terrorism and peace separately", Netanyahu's policy emphasized pursuing peace only in the absence of "terror" for Israelis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_suicide_attacks#:~:text=Within%20a%20month%20of%20the,demands%20%5Bwere%5D%20met.%22
@Rajk999 saidThe PLO, not Hamas, was recognized by Israel as the legitimate voice of the Palestinians according to Oslo. They still support a two State solution, so your statement claiming Palestinians reject a State is a lie.
Almost immediately after the Oslo Accords were signed the PLO and Hamas engaged in terrorist activity killing Jews.
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Hamas was a fringe group at the time.
@no1marauder saidThe PLO is just a watered version of Hamas.
The PLO, not Hamas, was recognized by Israel as the legitimate voice of the Palestinians according to Oslo. They still support a two State solution, so your statement claiming Palestinians reject a State is a lie.
Hamas was a fringe group at the time.
Oslo I Accord (1993)
Mediated talks between the Israeli government and the PLO in 1993 (the Oslo I Accord) resulted in the PLO recognizing Israel's right to exist in peace and accepting United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, while Israel recognized the PLO as a legitimate authority representing the Palestinian people. Despite the Israel–PLO Letters of Mutual Recognition (1993), in which PLO leader Yasser Arafat renounced "terrorism and other acts of violence" against Israel, the PLO continued to engage in militant activities, particularly during the Second Intifada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Liberation_Organization
So while the PLO pretend to recognise Israel's right to exist, they have supported and encouraged terrorists under their control to commit acts of terrorism against Israel. Fatah, Palestinian Liberation Jihad and at least 3 others, funded and supported by the PLO.
The Palestinian Islamic Jihad, founded in 1981, belongs to the later generation of Palestinian militancy. The first generation of militant groups was formed after Israel’s independence in 1948, when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who had been living in the territory were displaced. These guerrilla groups, which include Fatah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), and others that later came under the umbrella of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), sought to confront the new state and place control of the territory under Arab sovereignty.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Palestinian-Islamic-Jihad
PLO supports and funds several terrorists organisations whose aim is to terrorize Jews until all of Palestine comes under Arab control.
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@Rajk999 saidPalestinians are under illegal and brutal occupation. They have a Natural Right to resist their oppression by force (though not by terrorism).
The PLO is just a watered version of Hamas.
[i]Oslo I Accord (1993)
Mediated talks between the Israeli government and the PLO in 1993 (the Oslo I Accord) resulted in the PLO recognizing Israel's right to exist in peace and accepting United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, while Israel recognized the PLO as a legitimate authority representing the Palestinian peop ...[text shortened]... orists organisations whose aim is to terrorize Jews until all of Palestine comes under Arab control.
Their leadership has endorsed a two State solution for decades contrary to your false claims. It still does.https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/09/world/middleeast/palestinian-authority-gaza.html
@no1marauder said"Palestinians are under illegal and brutal occupation. "
Palestinians are under illegal and brutal occupation. They have a Natural Right to resist their oppression by force (though not by terrorism).
Their leadership has endorsed a two State solution for decades contrary to your false claims. It still does.https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/09/world/middleeast/palestinian-authority-gaza.html
yes, by iran
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@no1marauder saidDid you ever read the PLO charter? It says clearly that they rejected the UN Partition plan 1947, which was a 2-state solution, and that they will continue to work for a single nation living in Palestine under Arab control and government.
Palestinians are under illegal and brutal occupation. They have a Natural Right to resist their oppression by force (though not by terrorism).
Their leadership has endorsed a two State solution for decades contrary to your false claims. It still does.https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/09/world/middleeast/palestinian-authority-gaza.html
Read it yourself. Here it is.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/plocov.asp
Palestinians want neither peace, nor 2 states. They want death to Jews.
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@Rajk999 saidSo they rejected the unfair partition plan 77 years ago.
Did you ever read the PLO charter? It says clearly that they rejected the UN Partition plan 1947, which was a 2-state solution, and that they will continue to work for a single nation living in Palestine under Arab control and government.
Read it yourself. Here it is.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/plocov.asp
Palestinians want neither peace, nor 2 states. They want death to Jews.
That hardly means they don't endorse a two State solution now; they do and have repeatedly stated so for decades. In fact, they did so at the Arab Summit in 1982.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution#:~:text=The%20Palestine%20Liberation%20Organization%20has,recognising%20the%20statehood%20of%20Israel
You're being deceitful as usual
@no1marauder saidCant read and understand as usual.
So they rejected the unfair partition plan 77 years ago.
That hardly means they don't endorse a two State solution now; they do and have repeatedly stated so for decades.
You're being deceitful as usual
Article 3:
The Palestinian Arab people possess the legal right to their homeland and have the right to determine their destiny after achieving the liberation of their country in accordance with their wishes and entirely of their own accord and will.
There is nothing about a 2-state solution, neither is there any indication that they will accept a Jewish state in Palestine, in that Charter. They refer to Palestine as their homeland.
They are delusional, just like you are, and they will be beaten every single time they step out of line.
@Rajk999 saidSticking with a lie doesn't make it any less of a lie. The public position of the PLO is abundantly clear; it is Israel, not the PLO, which is the main obstacle to a two State solution. The PLO recognized Israel's right to exist at Oslo.https://history.state.gov/milestones/1993-2000/oslo
Cant read and understand as usual.
Article 3:
The Palestinian Arab people possess the legal right to their homeland and have the right to determine their destiny after achieving the liberation of their country in accordance with their wishes and entirely of their own accord and will.
There is nothing about a 2-state solution, neither is there any indication that ...[text shortened]... are delusional, just like you are, and they will be beaten every single time they step out of line.
@Rajk999 saidIsrael can continue to chose your and Netanyahu's path and always know war, violence and bloodshed.
Cant read and understand as usual.
Article 3:
The Palestinian Arab people possess the legal right to their homeland and have the right to determine their destiny after achieving the liberation of their country in accordance with their wishes and entirely of their own accord and will.
There is nothing about a 2-state solution, neither is there any indication that ...[text shortened]... are delusional, just like you are, and they will be beaten every single time they step out of line.
Or it can make peace.
@no1marauder saidWhat a donkey you are. There was peace on Oct 6th... you damn fool.
Israel can continue to chose your and Netanyahu's path and always know war, violence and bloodshed.
Or it can make peace.
@Rajk999 saidThis war has been going on intermittently for over a 100 years.
What a donkey you are. There was peace on Oct 6th... you damn fool.
You don't understand human nature if you expect a People to grovel before what you think are their "betters". No level of violence levied against them will change the fact of resistance.