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Trump Guilty on all 34 counts

Trump Guilty on all 34 counts

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Meant to just keep this discussion in "It's Up to the Jury Now" but that thread has been hijacked by off-topic ranting hate speech by the usual suspects.

So, how about that Donald Trump thingy? Guilty of 34 felonies?

Bigly.

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Judge was lenient in allowing him to leave the courtroom without setting bail; that's pretty unusual after a felony conviction.

Sentencing set for July 11. Prosecutors will file a sentencing memorandum with a suggested sentence which the defendant will then respond to. Normally, the Probation Department will do a pre-sentence investigation including an interview with the convicted and make recommendations of their own but I'm not sure whether this was ordered in this case.

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I’m just watching a Trump supporter being interviewed and saying “he is not a convicted felon, the whole thing is a sham and it won’t change the way I vote”.

It seems incredible to me that a convicted felon can stand as a candidate for the highest office.

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@no1marauder said
Meant to just keep this discussion in "It's Up to the Jury Now" but that thread has been hijacked by off-topic ranting hate speech by the usual suspects.

So, how about that Donald Trump thingy? Guilty of 34 felonies?

Bigly.
An historic moment, right up there with Nixon’s resignation.

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I don't think you can rig something like this.

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You know what's wild... if Trump just said "Yes, I had sex with Stormy Daniels"... it wouldn't have hurt his campaign, he wouldn't have had to pay her hush money, he wouldn't have had to lie about, and he wouldn't be a convicted felon now.

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@wildgrass said
You know what's wild... if Trump just said "Yes, I had sex with Stormy Daniels"... it wouldn't have hurt his campaign, he wouldn't have had to pay her hush money, he wouldn't have had to lie about, and he wouldn't be a convicted felon now.
I'm not sure if such an admission right after the Access Hollywood tape ("grab their pussy"😉 wouldn't have been fatal to his campaign. Hope Hicks' testimony at the trial certainly seemed to indicate that the campaign thought so.

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@no1marauder said
Meant to just keep this discussion in "It's Up to the Jury Now" but that thread has been hijacked by off-topic ranting hate speech by the usual suspects.

So, how about that Donald Trump thingy? Guilty of 34 felonies?

Bigly.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Damn. Haha.

The man needs a good spanking.

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@wildgrass said
You know what's wild... if Trump just said "Yes, I had sex with Stormy Daniels"... it wouldn't have hurt his campaign, he wouldn't have had to pay her hush money, he wouldn't have had to lie about, and he wouldn't be a convicted felon now.
I think you are right.
But I hardly think his wife would have stuck by him. And if she divorced him over sex with a porn star, I’m not sure how the Christian right would have taken that in 2016.

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@no1marauder said
I'm not sure if such an admission right after the Access Hollywood tape ("grab their pussy"😉 wouldn't have been fatal to his campaign. Hope Hicks' testimony at the trial certainly seemed to indicate that the campaign thought so.
There were soooo many other things.

- multiple rape allegations
- "go out and shoot someone without losing votes"
- physically mocking disabled people
- punishment for women who get abortions

Really, the religious vote would've gone to any republican and he was way in the lead.

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I wonder what this means for the republican party as a whole.

trump is an international laughing stock. Now he’s a convicted criminal too.

Can they seriously accept that as a president?
Sure, the maga tea-party types don’t care; they’re like an indoctrinated cult, but surely the serious republican party must be screaming behind closed doors?

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@wildgrass said
There were soooo many other things.

- multiple rape allegations
- "go out and shoot someone without losing votes"
- physically mocking disabled people
- punishment for women who get abortions

Really, the religious vote would've gone to any republican and he was way in the lead.
Trump was hardly ever "in the lead" never mind "way in the lead". Here's the RCP average for 2016: https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/trump-vs-clinton

On October 6, HRC led by 4.1 percentage; the Access Hollywood tape hit on October 7th and within a week, Trump was down by 6.7 points. He managed to climb back to within a few percentage points after that, but another scandal may well have finished him.

He lost the popular vote by over 3 million and had to pull an inside straight with razor thin margins in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. With such a small margin for error, it seems highly likely the campaign's concern over another sex related scandal was well-founded.

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@wildgrass said
You know what's wild... if Trump just said "Yes, I had sex with Stormy Daniels"... it wouldn't have hurt his campaign, he wouldn't have had to pay her hush money, he wouldn't have had to lie about, and he wouldn't be a convicted felon now.
True, but that doesn‘t take Trump‘s personality (flaws) into account. He‘s a pathological liar who cannot take responsibility for his actions. Even if his mom catches him red-handed with his hand in the cookie jar, his instinctive reaction is to deny it. Telling fibs to a newspaper isn‘t a crime, but lying on business and tax records is, and that has proven to be his Achilles‘ heel.

If the Republican caucus doesn‘t drop him right away, they are all a bunch of shameless cowards.

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@wildgrass said
You know what's wild... if Trump just said "Yes, I had sex with Stormy Daniels"... it wouldn't have hurt his campaign, he wouldn't have had to pay her hush money, he wouldn't have had to lie about, and he wouldn't be a convicted felon now.
But that would have been telling the truth, something that Trump is physically unable to do.

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