1. Standard membervivify
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  2. Subscriberhappy chappy
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    America has a destructive President and that's a fact. Deal with it in November ya twits.
    He should be charged with manslaughter for "keeping America from panic ".
    How can you defend that ya twits.
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    The Turks seem to assume that any form of Kurdish independence would inflame the situation in Eastern Turkey. But I've always wondered if the long-term consequence of the establishment of a small independent Kurdish state (presumably with borders corresponding to the Kurdish region in northern Iraq) might actually in the end defuse the situation within Turkey's borders. There would be a "State of Kurdistan", and Turkish Kurds who felt sufficiently patriotic to wish to live there could choose to emigrate. Those who were willing to accept the status quo in Eastern Turkey could stay there.
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    @teinosuke said
    The Turks seem to assume that any form of Kurdish independence would inflame the situation in Eastern Turkey. But I've always wondered if the long-term consequence of the establishment of a small independent Kurdish state (presumably with borders corresponding to the Kurdish region in northern Iraq) might actually in the end defuse the situation within Turkey's borders. The ...[text shortened]... ose to emigrate. Those who were willing to accept the status quo in Eastern Turkey could stay there.
    Tein, I am sure you know there was once a Greater Kurdistan.

    It was broken up and redistributed after WWI by some Western geniuses. Brilliant!!
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    @earl-of-trumps said
    Tein, I am sure you know there was once a Greater Kurdistan.

    It was broken up and redistributed after WWI by some Western geniuses. Brilliant!!
    There hasn't been an independent Kurdish state since the Middle Ages. Before World War I, the Kurdish territories were under Ottoman or Iranian rule.

    It was in fact the victorious Western powers who envisaged a Kurdish state after the First World War; the Treaty of Sevres planned a referendum in Kurdish areas to determine its borders. However, the strategic genius of Mustafa Kemal (Ataturk, as we now know him) ensured that that treaty was never implemented. The subsequent Treaty of Lausanne recognised Turkey in its modern borders, spelling the end of Kurdish hopes for independence; but the Western powers were not in a position to oppose this by 1923.
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    12 Sep '20 14:49
    @Teinosuke

    thank for that, I will Wiki it.
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