@Rajk999 saidIrony at its worst.
Education is indoctrination and brainwashing, and all societies do it. Some societies teach their children that Christianity and Judaism is evil. Some that capitalism is evil. It works for them, but there often comes a point when the child matures, they see the truth for themselves which is that what Islam taught them is nonsense, or what their socialist leaders preached is ...[text shortened]... We are educating them to support the very same doctrines which caused the worlds greatest suffering.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou encourage Americans to participate in their own destruction.
But each state has its own Department of Education. I don’t understand your reasoning. The states send tax money up to Washington DC to be appropriated to the Department of education in DC. But Sue, after they get it, they send it back to the states. Are you following me. I think we could leave that step out. Don’t you? You are a silly goose.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidAnd this, ladies and gentlemen, is the ignorance that needs educating.
I don't understand his statement at all.
What do you think he means?
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@Suzianne saidHe said: "The budget for Harvard is 40 Billion, so 50 Billion won't go very far".
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the ignorance that needs educating.
You tell me what part of that makes sense, because that would leave Harvard with a 10 Billion dollar surplus. .
Please explain, since you are implying that I'm too stupid to understand it.
@Rajk999 said'Education is indoctrination and brainwashing'
Education is indoctrination and brainwashing, and all societies do it. Some societies teach their children that Christianity and Judaism is evil. Some that capitalism is evil. It works for them, but there often comes a point when the child matures, they see the truth for themselves which is that what Islam taught them is nonsense, or what their socialist leaders preached is ...[text shortened]... We are educating them to support the very same doctrines which caused the worlds greatest suffering.
Do what? Are you saying that people learning science, literature, languages, mathematics and so on are being indoctrinated and brainwashed? Are you saying by implication that people should not be educated? Pol Pot had a similar idea in Cambodia, (a wonderful country, by the way) and I've seen the results of that first - hand. You might want to qualify that statement, you know, take after your hero, Donald the Orange, and do a bit of a climbdown.
People, by the way, can also be indoctrinated and brainwashed into thinking that all things Islamic are evil. Looked in the mirror lately?
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@Cliff-Mashburn saidHere, ignoramus, is what he was responding to: "Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE are the biggest supporters of American universities. Over the last 20 years they have contributed over $50 Billion US ,and they have an ulterior motive." -- Rajk999
He said: "The budget for Harvard is 40 Billion, so 50 Billion won't go very far".
You tell me what part of that makes sense, because that would leave Harvard with a 10 Billion dollar surplus. .
Please explain, since you are implying that I'm too stupid to understand it.
Sonhouse responded to this with: "The budget for Harvard is 40 Billion, so 50 Billion won't go very far".
Keep in mind Rajk was talking about $50B over 20 years. To ALL US universities.
I'm wondering if you're also too stupid to understand the explanation.
It's like you guys use your stupidity as some kind of cudgel to get your way by misrepresenting what people are actually saying because you never seem to get ANYthing.
(Making University free in this country would go a LONG way towards removing this handicap that you people ALL seem to suffer from.)
@AverageJoe1 saidHey IDIOT, do you think whatever the Saudis give, 50 billion? You think what, that all goes to HARVARD? There are FOUR FRIGGING THOUSAND colleges and universities in the US, so if that say 50 bil was split amongst them all it would be about 12 million. That wouldn't support a university for 3 months much less DOMINATE them.
You seem to nail every subject on the forum.
TRUMP wants to TOTALLY dominate ALL Universities BECAUSE that is the Authoritarian playbook right down the line.
Just like his destruction of government agencies. Waste and fraud is just the rationale, the REASON is he wants to RUN THE US TOTALLY.
So you kill universities, kill any independent agency, make DOJ respond to your personal hate list, Kill FEMA, Kill USAID, Kill AmeriCorps, Kill Medicaid, SS and the like then say he is the only way to save the US, (From his own self caused depravations)
Like the Tariff wars, CONSERVATIVES are saying he is 'WHACKING' US citizens
That is a QUOTE from the CONSERVATIVE WALL STREET JOURNAL.
Now Trump wants to put a 50$ tax PER TON on incoming CHINESE ONLY ships.
So 20,000 tons of cargo which is about 1/5th of what they CAN haul, a MILLION dollar tax, FIVE million if fully loaded with 100,000 tons.
Then side with Putin, stop all the sanctions, put people here LEGALLY in El Salvador gulags WITHOUT EVEN A HINT OF DUE PROCESS.
And you LOVE all of it, just like the TRAITOR Trump AND you are a professional TROLL.
@Indonesia-Phil saidI think you understood what I meant. Yes Islam is evil. I have already posted some pretty gruesome proof of that already. I can take the trouble to post some more if you like. Right now as we speak, Muslims in DRC are killing / beheading Christians for no reason. They are sick deranged killers that need to be stopped. I know you do not agree but these are not normal people. Even the so-called peaceful Muslims sit quietly applauding the murderous rampage of their extremist brothers.
'Education is indoctrination and brainwashing'
Do what? Are you saying that people learning science, literature, languages, mathematics and so on are being indoctrinated and brainwashed? Are you saying by implication that people should not be educated? Pol Pot had a similar idea in Cambodia, (a wonderful country, by the way) and I've seen the results of that first ...[text shortened]... rinated and brainwashed into thinking that all things Islamic are evil. Looked in the mirror lately?
You referring to Trump as my hero is really lame, and such statements put you in the same class as these insane Democrats. I have no hero among men. Trump has done some good things which I already listed and he also do stupid things. It is really amazing how politics can cause people to lack decent communication skills. Try to speak in normal language.
See how I wrote ... did I call you names or insinuate you are idolising anyone or say anything derogatory? You know when someone needs to resort to insults, they have lost the argument.
@Rajk999 saidNever be surprised by anything supported and defended by liberals.
I think you understood what I meant. Yes Islam is evil. I have already posted some pretty gruesome proof of that already. I can take the trouble to post some more if you like. Right now as we speak, Muslims in DRC are killing / beheading Christians for no reason. They are sick deranged killers that need to be stopped. I know you do not agree but these are not normal peo ...[text shortened]... anything derogatory? You know when someone needs to resort to insults, they have lost the argument.
Note how they are aptly named liberal. Wow. What is there worst.. It has to be that a person can change their sex? They glorify unnaturalness. Second would be dependent on other people, whether the other people agree or not.
I see comments like Islam is evil.
In Holland, we also have people saying this (actually, the party where the leader says nothing about education housing health etc. but is one issue ´Islam out´, has gotten the most votes...).
Still, I think this is not way to go.
If you don´t like the Islam, you just do not join it.
Like TV: hate a show, then do not watch it.
And as for terrorism or street bugging from Islams: there is police for those things. And they arrest all villains, not because they are Islamic, but all of them.
@Rajk999 saidYour words in an earlier post here '....it takes a man like Trump and his government to bring it (society) back to sanity.' are open to interpretation, but okay, I put a word in your mouth which wasn't there, so I'll take that on the chin and apologize. I'm not aware of any other 'insults', if that's how you regard it, and in the post to which I'm now replying, to call Democrats 'insane' ain't exactly complimentary, so we're all at it, and as the teacher used to put on my school reports 'could do better...'
I think you understood what I meant. Yes Islam is evil. I have already posted some pretty gruesome proof of that already. I can take the trouble to post some more if you like. Right now as we speak, Muslims in DRC are killing / beheading Christians for no reason. They are sick deranged killers that need to be stopped. I know you do not agree but these are not normal peo ...[text shortened]... anything derogatory? You know when someone needs to resort to insults, they have lost the argument.
I do think that your words 'Education is indoctrination and brainwashing' are extraordinary, and should perhaps be clarified on a public forum, but that's your call.
Here's the thing, I and she who is most beloved moved here (from England) to darkest Indonesia for a number of reasons; to escape the rampant consumerism of the west, the weather, and so on. We built and ran a lodge for SCUBA divers for about fifteen years, (now retired) during which time we met (and dived with) a lot of Americans, great people all, and for us to now see America being 'led' by the likes of Donald Trump puts iron in the soul; thus is the extent of my personal emotional investment in what's going on right now, stated for no reason whatsoever, but there you go....I hereby leave the discussion, with no hard feelings, for what's the point in hard feelings?
@Rajk999 saidYou really should look up what's been done in the last ~1.600 years and are still being done today to other people in the name of Christianity. Islam are summer children compared to that.
I think you understood what I meant. Yes Islam is evil. I have already posted some pretty gruesome proof of that already. I can take the trouble to post some more if you like. Right now as we speak, Muslims in DRC are killing / beheading Christians for no reason. They are sick deranged killers that need to be stopped. I know you do not agree but these are not normal peo ...[text shortened]... anything derogatory? You know when someone needs to resort to insults, they have lost the argument.
Then again it's very easy to claim to part of a religion. Even Trump claims to be a Christian, though, it's very clear to see that he only does that to get the voter base of the most gullible Christians.
@sonhouse saidIntimidate, ridicule, muzzle, and silence the intelligencia—straight out of Pol Pot’s playbook.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1egdy24v7po
Cutting off all fed aid to Harvard, now wanting to stop foreigners from entering Harvard.
Following the authoritarian playbook.
Universities are banding together for the legal battles to come.
JD Vance said and I quote: "Universities are the ENEMY" UNFRIGGING QUOTE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FR65Cifnhw
@Lundos saidWhat an absolutely ridiculous comment. I dont need to look up anything. What does that have to do with what is going on right under your nose in 2025? Here is what is happening in one country [and there are many such atrocities all over the world in many Islamic states], Nigeria in the last few months. With the help of Perplexity AI ;
You really should look up what's been done in the last ~1.600 years and are still being done today to other people in the name of Christianity. Islam are summer children compared to that.
Then again it's very easy to claim to part of a religion. Even Trump claims to be a Christian, though, it's very clear to see that he only does that to get the voter base of the most gullible Christians.
Based on recent reports from March to April 2025, at least 126–150+ Christians were killed in Nigeria in attacks linked to Muslim Fulani militants over the past three months (mid-January to mid-April 2025). However, most documented fatalities occurred in March–April, with limited public data available for January–February 2025. Here’s the breakdown:
Key Incidents (March–April 2025)
March 24: Three Christian farmers killed in Bokkos1.
March 27: Eleven Christians (including a pregnant woman and child) killed at a funeral1.
April 2: Five Christian women killed during a fellowship gathering1.
April 13–15:
40–56 Christians killed in a Palm Sunday attack in Zike/Bassa (Plateau State)123.
