Trump World is a Cocoon

So I decided to listen to the Joe Rogan podcast w/ Trump. I figured I would last about 30 seconds, but I steeled myself - and I was surprised. Without seeing his face, it was easier, somehow.

Eventually I became enthralled. Three hours.You know how when you start watching some tiny little animal spin a cocoon or make a nest? They go back and forth, busily collecting this and that, totally ignoring the world? It was like that.

Trump World is a cocoon that Trump is constantly spinning around himself. And he seems to be happy in his little world. He is important. He is amazing.

He loves it when people bring him little tidbits that fit into his weaving. So Joe Rogan would say something like "So they prosecuted you unfairly." And he would pick that up immediately and put it into the weave and reinforce it (at one point he actually called what he does 'weaving' - so interesting.)

Naturally, no spider or spinning insect likes it when you tear down part of their web, and Joe Rogan was very careful not to do that. The closest he got was saying something like "But when are you going to show the evidence that 2020 was stolen?" That disturbed the weave. That jiggled the threads, and Trump got distressed, but only briefly and it was all smoothed over and they were friends again.

Listening was hypnotic, so I had to switch over and fact check from time to time to re-ground myself. When you leave the web, that's when the illusion breaks. You see it for what it is - a con job. For example when he talked about being on a treadmill for a medical exam. And he said, "I could have gone forever. I told the doctor - I could do this all day. But it was BORING. So I told the doc, it's BORING." And you semi-snap out of it like, "Huh? That... makes no sense. Treadmills make you tired not bored? Wha..." But he quickly goes on to something else, and you go back into the trance, inside the cocoon, with everything fine, Trump at the center, spinning and spinning.

I could picture being in a penthouse suite in New York in the 1970's, being hypnotized by this guy painting a picture of some real estate investment or venture. It was harder to fact check in those days - people would take a lot more on faith. I guess that's where he developed this technique.

It reminded me of the description of Saruman, from LOTR: "Suddenly another voice spoke, low and melodious, its very sound an enchantment. Those who listened unwarily to that voice could seldom report the word that they heard; and if they did, they wondered, for little power remained in them. Mostly they remembered only that it was a delight to hear the voice speaking, all that it said seemed wise and reasonable, and desire awoke in them by swift agreement to seem wise themselves. When others spoke they seemed harsh and uncouth by contrast; and if they gainsaid the voice, anger was kindled in the hearts of those under the spell. For some the spell lasted only while the voice spoke to them, and when it spoke to another they smiled, as men do who see through a juggler's trick while others gape at it. For many the sound of the voice alone was enough to hold them enthralled; for for those whom it conquered the spell endured when they were far away, and ever they heard that soft voice whispering and urging them. But none were unmoved; none rejected its pleas and its commands without an effort of mind and will, so long as its master had control of it."

Tolkien knew exactly how to describe someone with That Voice. Probably because he himself heard it. But on the radio, in the 1930's.

Fascinating.

@spruce112358 said
So I decided to listen to the Joe Rogan podcast w/ Trump. I figured I would last about 30 seconds, but I steeled myself - and I was surprised. Without seeing his face, it was easier, somehow.

Eventually I became enthralled. Three hours.You know how when you start watching some tiny little animal spin a cocoon or make a nest? They go back and forth, busily collecting t ...[text shortened]... h That Voice. Probably because he himself heard it. But on the radio, in the 1930's.

Fascinating.

@kmax87 said
So you're saying Trump is a fat slug hoping to emerge as a butterfly?

TDS thread 😂

@Mott-The-Hoople said
TDS thread 😂

@spruce112358 said
Pretty sure he doesn't want to emerge! That's where he likes to be.

He controls his own reality in there.

@spruce112358 said
So I decided to listen to the Joe Rogan podcast w/ Trump. I figured I would last about 30 seconds, but I steeled myself - and I was surprised. Without seeing his face, it was easier, somehow.

Eventually I became enthralled. Three hours.You know how when you start watching some tiny little animal spin a cocoon or make a nest? They go back and forth, busily collecting t ...[text shortened]... h That Voice. Probably because he himself heard it. But on the radio, in the 1930's.

Fascinating.

@kmax87 said
Slug in a cocoon. It has a ring to it.

Btw the Rogan podcast was similar to the Musk 'interview' in that it's all about pitching in super softballs and letting the slug ruminate. Charming in it's own way really.

@Sleepyguy said
Just a salesman making a sale. He's an atist in a way. I got a chuckle when Trump became the interviewer for half an hour by getting Rogan onto boxing.

@Sleepyguy said
Just a salesman making a sale. He's an atist in a way. I got a chuckle when Trump became the interviewer for half an hour by getting Rogan onto boxing.

@kmax87 said
Trump has the art of being affable down to a tee as long as you leave him be unchallenged.

People on the left who are smarter and more accomplished than anyone here have actually admitted the interview showed Trump was more human and smarter than the media shows.

They still aren't voting for him but still...

(I didn't watch it. I can't even sleep for 3 hours let alone watch anything for that long)

@Parasite said
People on the left who are smarter and more accomplished than anyone here have actually admitted the interview showed Trump was more human and smarter than the media shows.

They still aren't voting for him but still...

(I didn't watch it. I can't even sleep for 3 hours let alone watch anything for that long)

@spruce112358 said
It was long - like a greatest hits album:

"My Button is Bigger than Your Button (feat. Kim Jong Il)"
"Russia, Russia, Russia"
"You're Not Gonna Have a Country Anymore"
"I Didn't Lose"
"Those Awful People"

@Sleepyguy said
What would Kamala's greatest hits be?

1. Unburdened by That Has-Been
2. The Racism in You
3. Teleprompter Blues
4. Laugh Laugh Laugh When You Wanna Cry
...