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  1. Standard memberfinnegan
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    01 Sep '17 09:15
    Speaking of love and generosity, it seems Trump is using his Hurricane Harvey press conferences to promote his latest $40 hat:

    http://all-that-is-interesting.com/trump-harvey-hat?llid=86mAK&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fbpdliquids&utm_term=EAgJ

    Walter Shaub, the former head of the Office of Government Ethics, tweeted out, "NO!! The Presidency is not your profit center!!"


    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-hurricane-visit-merchandise-cap-ethics-chief-657103
  2. SubscriberSuzianne
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    01 Sep '17 10:26
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    Speaking of love and generosity, it seems Trump is using his Hurricane Harvey press conferences to promote his latest $40 hat:

    http://all-that-is-interesting.com/trump-harvey-hat?llid=86mAK&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fbpdliquids&utm_term=EAgJ

    Walter Shaub, the former head of the Office of Government Ethics, tweeted out, ...[text shortened]... !!"


    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-hurricane-visit-merchandise-cap-ethics-chief-657103
    I understand the Oval Office has just completed a "renovation".

    They should probably cut the crap and just make it look like the sewer it's become.

    "Drain the swamp"? More like "Fill the swamp"!
  3. Standard membersh76
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    01 Sep '17 12:37
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    Speaking of love and generosity, it seems Trump is using his Hurricane Harvey press conferences to promote his latest $40 hat:

    http://all-that-is-interesting.com/trump-harvey-hat?llid=86mAK&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fbpdliquids&utm_term=EAgJ

    Walter Shaub, the former head of the Office of Government Ethics, tweeted out, ...[text shortened]... !!"


    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-hurricane-visit-merchandise-cap-ethics-chief-657103
    Here's a radical idea: You don't want one? Don't buy one.
  4. Standard membershavixmir
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    01 Sep '17 12:38
    The tackiness is brilliant.

    I think Trump deserves a Nobel prize.
    Not sure which one though.
  5. Standard memberfinnegan
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    01 Sep '17 12:50
    Originally posted by @sh76
    Here's a radical idea: You don't want one? Don't buy one.
    Don't you do "ethics" then?
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    01 Sep '17 20:42
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    The tackiness is brilliant.

    I think Trump deserves a Nobel prize.
    Not sure which one though.
    Considering how toxic Trump is, while a large part of the American population loves him, the Chemistry one seems appropriate.
  7. Standard memberfinnegan
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    01 Sep '17 23:00
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    Considering how toxic Trump is, while a large part of the American population loves him, the Chemistry one seems appropriate.
    Should we be looking to the Ig Nobel prizes? For instance:

    CHEMISTRY PRIZE [GERMANY] — Volkswagen, for solving the problem of excessive automobile pollution emissions by automatically, electromechanically producing fewer emissions whenever the cars are being tested.
    REFERENCE: "EPA, California Notify Volkswagen of Clean Air Act Violations", U.S. Environmental Protection Agency news release, September 18, 2015.

    Although I also considered:

    ECONOMICS PRIZE [NEW ZEALAND, UK] — Mark Avis, Sarah Forbes, and Shelagh Ferguson, for assessing the perceived personalities of rocks, from a sales and marketing perspective.
    REFERENCE: "The Brand Personality of Rocks: A Critical Evaluation of a Brand Personality Scale," Mark Avis, Sarah Forbes ,and Shelagh Ferguson, Marketing Theory, vol. 14, no. 4, 2014, pp. 451-475.
    WHO ATTENDED THE CEREMONY: Mark Avis and Sarah Forbes

    http://www.improbable.com/ig/winners/
  8. Zugzwang
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    01 Sep '17 23:131 edit
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra to Shavixmir
    Considering how toxic Trump is, while a large part of the American population loves him, the Chemistry one seems appropriate.
    Some scientific charlatans have received acclaim in the mainstream Western media.
    (In this case, one reason was that a producer for American television news became his mistress.)

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/sep/01/paolo-macchiarini-scientist-surgeon-rise-and-fall

    "Dr Con Man: the rise and fall of a celebrity scientist who fooled almost everyone.
    Surgeon Paolo Macchiarini was hailed for turning the dream of regenerative
    medicine into a reality – until he was exposed as a con artist and false prophet."

    "Macchiarini shot to prominence back in 2008, when he created a new airway
    for Claudia Castillo, a young woman from Barcelona. He did this by chemically
    stripping away the cells of a windpipe taken from a deceased donor; he then
    seeded the bare scaffold with stem cells taken from Castillo’s own bone marrow. ...
    This was Macchiarini’s first big success. Countless news stories declared it a
    medical breakthrough. A life-saver and a game-changer. We now know that wasn’t true.
    However, the serious complications that Castillo suffered were, for a long time, kept very quiet."

    "Last year, however, the dream soured, exposing an ugly reality.
    Macchiarini gave his “regenerating” windpipes to 17 or more patients worldwide.
    Most, including Andemariam Beyene, are now dead. Those few patients who are still
    alive – including Castillo – have survived in spite of the artificial windpipes they received."

    "In January 2016, Macchiarini received an extraordinary double dose of bad press.
    The first was a Vanity Fair article about his affair with Benita Alexander,
    an award-winning producer for NBC News. ... By the time the program aired,
    in mid-2014, the couple were planning their marriage. ... But as the big day approached,
    Alexander saw these plans unravel, and finally realised that her lover
    had lied about almost everything. ... Likewise the whole idea of a
    wedding: Macchiarini was still married to his wife of 30 years.

    Macchiarini’s deceit was so outlandish, Vanity Fair sought the opinion of the
    Harvard professor Ronald Schouten, an expert on psychopaths, who gave
    this diagnosis-at-a-distance: “Macchiarini is the extreme form of a con man.""

    "Stem cell research is a hot field of science and, according to statistics,
    also a rather scandal-prone one. Articles in this area are retracted 2.4 times more
    often than the average for biomedicine, and over half of these retractions are due to fraud.

    Does the “heat” of stem cell research – the high levels of funding,
    prestige and media coverage it enjoys – somehow encourage fraud?
    That’s what our experience of medical research leads us to suspect."

    "An alarmingly wide gap has grown between what we expect from stem cells and
    what they deliver. Each new scientific discovery brings a flood of stories about
    how it will revolutionise medicine one day soon. But that day is always postponed.

    An unhappy result of this is the rise of pseudo-scientific therapies.
    Stem cell clinics have sprung up like weeds, offering to treat just about any
    ailment you can name. In place of clinical data, there are gushing testimonials."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Macchiarini

    "Paolo Macchiarini .. is a Swiss-born thoracic surgeon and a former
    researcher on regenerative medicine, who became known for research fraud."

    "If prosecuted, Macchiarini risks between 2 and 8 years of prison for manslaughter."
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