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Let me put this way:

a) Does anyone here thinks that PKK has the right to attack Turkey by using guns and not diplomacy. (PKK stands for Kurdish Workers Party)?

b) Does anyone here thinks that Kurdish people has the right to have an independent State?

c) Does anyone here thinks that Kurdish people has the right to have an autonomous state?

Regards,

Kenan

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Originally posted by kenan
Let me put this way:

a) Does anyone here thinks that PKK has the right to attack Turkey by using guns and not diplomacy. (PKK stands for Kurdish Workers Party)?

b) Does anyone here thinks that Kurdish people has the right to have an independent State?

c) Does anyone here thinks that Kurdish people has the right to have an autonomous state?

Regards,

Kenan
i try not to think about it 😛

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Originally posted by kenan
Let me put this way:

a) Does anyone here thinks that PKK has the right to attack Turkey by using guns and not diplomacy. (PKK stands for Kurdish Workers Party)?

b) Does anyone here thinks that Kurdish people has the right to have an independent State?

c) Does anyone here thinks that Kurdish people has the right to have an autonomous state?

Regards,

Kenan
Organizations and populations do not have rights. Individuals do.

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And this time, it wasn't plastic.
http://gothamist.com/images/2003_11_bushturkey.jpg

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Originally posted by kenan
Let's not have racism here. 😛 This is not Turkish-Kurdish issue anyway guys.

Turkish and Kurdish people are brothers. This is an issue between the terrorist group and Turkey. That's all.
kenan: Turkish and Kurdish people are brothers

Don't you believe that the great majority of Kurds in Turkey want a separate, independent Kurdistan? If not, you are surely deluded.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
kenan: Turkish and Kurdish people are brothers

Don't you believe that the great majority of Kurds in Turkey want a separate, independent Kurdistan? If not, you are surely deluded.
Why?

They are equal as Turkish people and they are the citizen of Turkish Republic. They have the same right as any other citizen. They can vote, they can speak Kurdish, teach Kurdish, they can create a political party, they can send delegates to parliment, heck they can be the president of Turkey.

What would seperation bring? Besides instability in the region.

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being independent is one thing, being able to exist independently is another story. what would be more beneficial to the kurds (or for the kosovars for example) ? getting support from the nation as a province or having a seat in the UN council because they are independent and have their own parliament?

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
being independent is one thing, being able to exist independently is another story. what would be more beneficial to the kurds (or for the kosovars for example) ? getting support from the nation as a province or having a seat in the UN council because they are independent and have their own parliament?
Wow! Can California get a UN Council Seat too? How about Texas? New York?

Can we have fifty seats if we dissolve the Union? Should EU countries lose their seats because of their Union?

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I find the idea of Kurdistan as abhorrent as any other racially-themed nation, such as Israel, United Arab Emirates, Nazi Germany, the Confederate States of America, the African nations that took property from white people, etc.

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Originally posted by kenan
Let's not have racism here. 😛 This is not Turkish-Kurdish issue anyway guys.

Turkish and Kurdish people are brothers. This is an issue between the terrorist group and Turkey. That's all.
Brothers? So does that make them "Turdish"?

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Brothers? So does that make them "Turdish"?
Or Kirkish?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I find the idea of Kurdistan as abhorrent as any other racially-themed nation, such as Israel, United Arab Emirates, Nazi Germany, the Confederate States of America, the African nations that took property from white people, etc.
Or France or Spain or Japan or the Phillipines or what? At some point people devoloped nationalsim, which ties ethnic and cultural similarities. You have to realize a majority if not all of these countries where made up by former Colonial powers that distrubited borders without concern to ethnic or cultural ties. Thats why in the aftermath of colonialism, that part of the world is still F'ed up. They are just trying to get a sense or identity.

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Originally posted by StTito
Or France or Spain or Japan or the Phillipines or what? At some point people devoloped nationalsim, which ties ethnic and cultural similarities. You have to realize a majority if not all of these countries where made up by former Colonial powers that distrubited borders without concern to ethnic or cultural ties. Thats why in the aftermath of colonialism, that part of the world is still F'ed up. They are just trying to get a sense or identity.
None of those nations, as far as I know, puts any preference, symbolic or otherwise, on any particular "race" of people.