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"US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has said he is "very concerned" about a Pakistani doctor arrested for providing intelligence for the US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden last year. Dr Shikal Afridi is accused of running a CIA-run programme in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was killed. A Pakistan panel says he should be tried for treason."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-16772112

Specific proposals please:

How should the the U.S. respond and what should it do if Dr Afridi is tried for treason?


Originally posted by FMF
"US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has said he is "very concerned" about a Pakistani doctor arrested for providing intelligence for the US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden last year. Dr Shikal Afridi is accused of running a CIA-run programme in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was killed. A Pakistan panel says he should be tried for treason."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/n ...[text shortened]...

How should the the U.S. respond and what should it do if Dr Afridi is tried for treason?
Why not bomb some villages in Pakistan or Afganistan at random, killing some dozens of innocents, just to show the point?

"What point?", you ask? Don't know, but they will think of that afterward.

They've done it before, and they think it works, so who not one time more?

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
Why not bomb some villages in Pakistan or Afganistan at random, killing some dozens of innocents, just to show the point?

"What point?", you ask? Don't know, but they will think of that afterward.

They've done it before, and they think it works, so who not one time more?
Hate to say but usually we have an embassy that helicopters can use to fly away. Have we reached that point yet?

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Originally posted by FMF
"US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has said he is "very concerned" about a Pakistani doctor arrested for providing intelligence for the US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden last year. Dr Shikal Afridi is accused of running a CIA-run programme in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was killed. A Pakistan panel says he should be tried for treason."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/n ...[text shortened]...

How should the the U.S. respond and what should it do if Dr Afridi is tried for treason?
I haven't yet read the article, but technically speaking, did he commit treason?

You can have all the best ideals and reasons for committing treason, in fact many usually do. But it's still treason under the law. Ask the Rosenbergs. Well, too late, but you know what I mean.

That's not to say that I'm not immensely grateful for what the Doctor did, and I would support giving him asylum if he had come to the embassy. But if he was arrested and charged under the laws of the country, there's really not much we can do.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
I haven't yet read the article, but technically speaking, did he commit treason?

You can have all the best ideals and reasons for committing treason, in fact many usually do. But it's still treason under the law. Ask the Rosenbergs. Well, too late, but you know what I mean.

That's not to say that I'm not immensely grateful for what the Doctor did, ...[text shortened]... was arrested and charged under the laws of the country, there's really not much we can do.
How is divulging the whereabouts of Bin Laden treason against the government of Pakistan? Unless.....

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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
How is divulging the whereabouts of Bin Laden treason against the government of Pakistan? Unless.....
Well, it resulted in military action on Pakistani soil, without Pakistani consent.

And your unless might have merit. What if he came into information from the Pakistani government?

Again, a bad thing to do? Probably not. But it may be, technically speaking, treason even under our laws.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
I haven't yet read the article, but technically speaking, did he commit treason?

You can have all the best ideals and reasons for committing treason, in fact many usually do. But it's still treason under the law. Ask the Rosenbergs. Well, too late, but you know what I mean.

That's not to say that I'm not immensely grateful for what the Doctor did, ...[text shortened]... was arrested and charged under the laws of the country, there's really not much we can do.
I'm sorry, are you a rosenberg supporter?

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Originally posted by dryhump
I'm sorry, are you a rosenberg supporter?
Depends on what you mean. I think Julius was probably guilty, but also view the trial as a rigged sham. Moreover, I haven't seen any evidence that the secrets he may have turned over assisted the Soviet nuclear weapons program in any significant way. I don't believe it warranted the death penalty, and people who have done much worse have received only prison sentences. Ironically, it was his belief system which got him (and his wife killed). If he had done it for money, he would probably have served life in jail.

And I think Ethel was probably innocent.

This is based on extensive reading on the subject.

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Originally posted by FMF
"US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has said he is "very concerned" about a Pakistani doctor arrested for providing intelligence for the US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden last year. Dr Shikal Afridi is accused of running a CIA-run programme in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was killed. A Pakistan panel says he should be tried for treason."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/n ...[text shortened]...

How should the the U.S. respond and what should it do if Dr Afridi is tried for treason?
There's nothing the US can do to force anything, but I would like to see the US use peaceful diplomatic measures to get him released, pardoned or at least for some leniency.

If, in fact, he is "guilty" as charged, then as far as I'm concerned, he's a moral hero. Though obviously there's nothing we can do to force the Pakistanis from doing what they please.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
Depends on what you mean. I think Julius was probably guilty, but also view the trial as a rigged sham. Moreover, I haven't seen any evidence that the secrets he may have turned over assisted the Soviet nuclear weapons program in any significant way. I don't believe it warranted the death penalty, and people who have done much worse have received only pris ...[text shortened]... And I think Ethel was probably innocent.

This is based on extensive reading on the subject.
It's a matter of relative evil. Julius was almost certainly guilty and I have no problem with him being fried. However, that he was the only person ever executed for treason is somewhat incongruous, since what he did may not have been any worse than what some others (Aldrich Ames, anyone?) also did.

The execution of Ethel was outrageous, though somewhat more understandable in the context of the era.

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Originally posted by FMF
"US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has said he is "very concerned" about a Pakistani doctor arrested for providing intelligence for the US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden last year. Dr Shikal Afridi is accused of running a CIA-run programme in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was killed. A Pakistan panel says he should be tried for treason."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/n ...[text shortened]...

How should the the U.S. respond and what should it do if Dr Afridi is tried for treason?
If you ask me he is a dead man.

Then again, perhaps they will use him as a bargaining bait for things they want.

If you ask me, Pakistan is just another Iran now with a nuke.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
I haven't yet read the article, but technically speaking, did he commit treason?

You can have all the best ideals and reasons for committing treason, in fact many usually do. But it's still treason under the law. Ask the Rosenbergs. Well, too late, but you know what I mean.

That's not to say that I'm not immensely grateful for what the Doctor did, ...[text shortened]... was arrested and charged under the laws of the country, there's really not much we can do.
The Rosenbergs were not, and could not, have been executed for treason.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
The Rosenbergs were not, and could not, have been executed for treason.
There's a constitutional provision that has turned out to mean something...

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Originally posted by sh76
There's nothing the US can do to force anything, but I would like to see the US use peaceful diplomatic measures to get him released, pardoned or at least for some leniency.

If, in fact, he is "guilty" as charged, then as far as I'm concerned, he's a moral hero. Though obviously there's nothing we can do to force the Pakistanis from doing what they please.
Should Bradley Manning also be characterized as a hero for leaking info to wiki-leaks?

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