05 Apr 06
Originally posted by phgaoYes, and the quotas for government schools should be linked to the number of career opportunities expected to be available for graduating governments. You don't want a bunch of unemployed governments running around now, do you? They cause all sorts of trouble.
Should there be quotas for government school students? Why, why not?
05 Apr 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZQuotas which guarantee government school kids places in universities. For example a certain % of places on offer. Currently, many 'upper-class' students afford private/independant schools and are able to achieve 'better' marks (because of spoon-feeding perhaps), than public schools.
What kind of quotas? Where? What courses? I've got nothing but questions.
EDIT: And a case of the squirts.
Quotas would allow poorer kids to get degrees and be able to earn more than say their parents so improve their quality of living.
But, as of now, i am not clear of the specifics. I'll post more soon.
05 Apr 06
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Originally posted by phgaoYou propose giving places to students who have worse grades? Also, people get spoonfed at private schools? I went to a fancy smancy private school. I earned my grades there. Not that my grades really mattered because round here everyone gets into first year university and then they seriously restrict entry to the second year of many courses.
Quotas which guarantee government school kids places in universities. For example a certain % of places on offer. Currently, many 'upper-class' students afford private/independant schools and are able to achieve 'better' marks (because of spoon-feeding perhaps), than public schools.
Quotas would allow poorer kids to get degrees and be able to earn more than ...[text shortened]... uality of living.
But, as of now, i am not clear of the specifics. I'll post more soon.
Sure I guess I had an advantage because the classes were smaller and the teachers better but I sure as hell wasn't spponfed anything. Plus I was on a scholarship there.
05 Apr 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZI'm glad to hear that. I in fact attend a private school and am on a scholarship too. In Australia, where I am, uni places are limited and not everyone who applies gets a place even 1st year.
You propose giving places to students who have worse grades? Also, people get spoonfed at private schools? I went to a fancy smancy private school. I earned my grades there. Not that my grades really mattered because round here everyone gets into first year university and then they seriously restrict entry to the second year of many courses.
Sure I gues ...[text shortened]... teachers better but I sure as hell wasn't spponfed anything. Plus I was on a scholarship there.
There have been studies showing that most private school kids (or at least more PS kids than public school kids - proportional to the % of each who attend in the first place) drop out after 1 year as they (most) have been spoonfed at schools and then when they get to uni they realise that self-learning is important, and taking the initiative to further one's study/learning.
05 Apr 06
Originally posted by phgaoShow me the studies and then maybe I'll believe you.
I'm glad to hear that. I in fact attend a private school and am on a scholarship too. In Australia, where I am, uni places are limited and not everyone who applies gets a place even 1st year.
There have been studies showing that most private school kids (or at least more PS kids than public school kids - proportional to the % of each who attend in the firs ...[text shortened]... se that self-learning is important, and taking the initiative to further one's study/learning.
07 Apr 06
Originally posted by phgaoIn countries where there are limited places in universities, then places should be based solely on ability. If private school kids do better due to spoon feeding then either the govt schools should start spoon feeding or the exams should be modified to better judge the quality of education. I went to a catholic, partly government sponsored school and was told by students from other schools that we were spoonfed. It didnt stop me from excelling at university though.
Should there be quotas for government school students? Why, why not?
I am however a strong supporter of education for all and believe that everyone should have the opportunity to go as far as university if they choose. I think that in my home country not enough is spent on education. I would even support higher taxes if it meant more and better schools.