I have been reading about this idea lately and I'm intrigued. Anyone have any thoughts? It looks to be much more efficient than the current welfare system in the US. What about the welfare system where others on the site live, could it be improved with a plan like this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income
Originally posted by HarrisonBergeronIt is a very good idea but politically difficult.
I have been reading about this idea lately and I'm intrigued. Anyone have any thoughts? It looks to be much more efficient than the current welfare system in the US. What about the welfare system where others on the site live, could it be improved with a plan like this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income
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Originally posted by HarrisonBergeronYou might want to read about the Care Not Cask program history in San Francisco.
I have been reading about this idea lately and I'm intrigued. Anyone have any thoughts? It looks to be much more efficient than the current welfare system in the US. What about the welfare system where others on the site live, could it be improved with a plan like this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income
The basic idea was that cash support given to needy people was too often used for drugs and alcohol and other counterproductive behavior, instead of the intended purposes to get homeless people into meal/shelter facilities where they could get help that might take them off the welfare roles. Granted, this program was intended to help the unemployed homeless population.
If it is necessary to give public assistance to poor people, I think it has to be a multi-targeted approach.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Proposition_N_%282002%29
Originally posted by JS357Utah is ending homelessness by giving people homes.
You might want to read about the Care Not Cask program history in San Francisco.
The basic idea was that cash support given to needy people was too often used for drugs and alcohol and other counterproductive behavior, instead of the intended purposes to get homeless people into meal/shelter facilities where they could get help that might take them off the ...[text shortened]... multi-targeted approach.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Proposition_N_%282002%29
http://www.nationofchange.org/utah-ending-homelessness-giving-people-homes-1390056183
If people need a job, give them a job and pay them a wage that enables them to pay for shelter, food and clothing. If people need health care, give it to them. Healthy people are able to contribute to the economy. If people need an education, skills, etc., give it to them so they can go out and work.
There will always be some who fail to succeed despite these efforts but the vast majority of people, yes even the poor, do want to have healthy, productive lives.
I'm "liberal" in some matters, but apparently not this one. I agree that people need housing, educational training, medical needs met, and life skills training. I do not believe in just regularly handing people money for no reason, not even children. Allowance, at any age, should be in exchange for work. How many young adults won't "leave the nest" because their needs are already being met without having to work? Many people would simply stop working if they didn't have to, and the country would collapse. Do you think people really enjoy cleaning up dog poop, collecting garbage, making burgers, being a waitress, or most low paying jobs? Really any job that makes a person unhappy. People (tend to) work because they have to, and so many make a goal of finding a job they like or at least can live with. If they no longer have to work, they won't.
Originally posted by PhrannyWell good for Utah, if it reduces their cost of social welfare without driving the needy to my state, all the better.
Utah is ending homelessness by giving people homes.
http://www.nationofchange.org/utah-ending-homelessness-giving-people-homes-1390056183
If people need a job, give them a job and pay them a wage that enables them to pay for shelter, food and clothing. If people need health care, give it to them. Healthy people are able to contribute to the economy ...[text shortened]... s but the vast majority of people, yes even the poor, do want to have healthy, productive lives.
Originally posted by SahuaroActually, there are plenty of places where people don't have to work. I could stop working right now and I would enjoy much the same living standard as I do now. Surprisingly (sarcasm intended), sitting around on your backside all day doing nothing is not "human nature."
I'm "liberal" in some matters, but apparently not this one. I agree that people need housing, educational training, medical needs met, and life skills training. I do not believe in just regularly handing people money for no reason, not even children. Allowance, at any age, should be in exchange for work. How many young adults won't "leave the nest" becau ...[text shortened]... finding a job they like or at least can live with. If they no longer have to work, they won't.
The idea is not new and much more effective and efficient than the traditional welfare state involving an army of bureaucrats and paperwork.
Read more:
https://decorrespondent.nl/541/why-we-should-give-free-money-to-everyone/20798745-cb9fbb39
Originally posted by KazetNagorraGood luck in Iceland or wherever you are. Stay there. For all of us.
Actually, there are plenty of places where people don't have to work. I could stop working right now and I would enjoy much the same living standard as I do now. Surprisingly (sarcasm intended), sitting around on your backside all day doing nothing is not "human nature."
The idea is not new and much more effective and efficient than the traditional w ...[text shortened]... ore:
https://decorrespondent.nl/541/why-we-should-give-free-money-to-everyone/20798745-cb9fbb39
Originally posted by KazetNagorraI don't think you understand the attitude of many Americans toward working. They think it's not a way to have fun.
Actually, there are plenty of places where people don't have to work. I could stop working right now and I would enjoy much the same living standard as I do now. Surprisingly (sarcasm intended), sitting around on your backside all day doing nothing is not "human nature."
The idea is not new and much more effective and efficient than the traditional w ...[text shortened]... ore:
https://decorrespondent.nl/541/why-we-should-give-free-money-to-everyone/20798745-cb9fbb39
