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Many of you chess players live in countries that has this type of healthcare system. Please tell us pros or cons of your personal experiences with your healthcare system. I believe that the United States should have a universal healthcare system, ie.. Medicare for All (M4A).


Pros:
- cheaper
- more efficient
- more effective
- fewer people suffering from easily preventable ailments
- less of a hassle in terms of paperwork for patients

Cons:
- less opportunity to urinate on the graves of people who died from untreated cancer
- gives libertarians and misanthropes a sense of existential dread
- makes it more difficult for health care executives and marketing managers to obtain sufficient cocaine to sniff from the backside of hookers


@fireagate said
Many of you chess players live in countries that has this type of healthcare system. Please tell us pros or cons of your personal experiences with your healthcare system. I believe that the United States should have a universal healthcare system, ie.. Medicare for All (M4A).
The obvious disadvantage is that tax payers have to pay for the coverage.

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@quackquack said
The obvious disadvantage is that tax payers have to pay for the coverage.
What makes that an obvious disadvantage? Wouldn’t such health insurance cover those same tax payers?


@js357 said
What makes that an obvious disadvantage? Wouldn’t such health insurance cover those same tax payers?
If everyone were covered at the Medicaid level or below then nothing would change. If people are covered at a higher level those who contribute would have to pay even more for those who don't.


@quackquack said
If everyone were covered at the Medicaid level or below then nothing would change. If people are covered at a higher level those who contribute would have to pay even more for those who don't.
Pay even more... by paying a lot less. Genius!


@quackquack said
If everyone were covered at the Medicaid level or below then nothing would change. If people are covered at a higher level those who contribute would have to pay even more for those who don't.
Just keep drinking that right wing koolaid.
It benefits the health insurance industry to keep up the lies.
We are now the only industrialized nation on the planet without a universal healthcare system.

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People...
Stop complaining about universal health care unless you are prepared to pay 15% on every dollar spent to cover it.
In Canada we have the so-called free health care but we get taxed 15 cents on every dollar spent.
Everything you buy is taxed 15%
These countries that don't have it want it but they don't want a 15% tax.
You can't have the best of two world's.
I'm so tired of Americans complaining about health care but they don't want to raise taxes to 15%
Most Canadian hospitals are full of old people just going there for attention.
I was at my bank last month during the day and I asked the teller why it was so busy and she said old retired people come for no reason just to feel like they are doing something.
The hospitals are the same way.
You get people abusing the system because they have nothing going on in life.

My whole life I have paid 15% tax to cover this so-called free health care and I have never been to the hospital.
I want my money back.

STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY 15% ON EVERY DOLLAR SPENT.


@fireagate
Here is my take: So I am a genuine old fart, on medicare. I pay something like 150 bucks a month for 80% coverage.
My question is:
Why do I pay about the same price for the other 20%? It would seem that if say some procedure cost 100,000 bucks and Medicare pays 80K, and the suppliment pays 20K but for a price pound for pound 5 times greater, why would it be a huge burden to pay the whole thing? Medicare already makes deals with hospitals and only pays half or thereabouts of the hospital wish list.
Now we pay more than 300 bucks a month for coverage that seems to me should cost say 200 a month.
So it seems to me the suppliment industry is a scam.

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@Duchess64
Not Trump for sure.


Are any of you leftist Americans willing to raise taxes to 15% from your current tax bracket?
(I think it's 5-7% right now)
How many of you have actually gone to the hospital on a regular basis?


@patzering said
People...
Stop complaining about universal health care unless you are prepared to pay 15% on every dollar spent to cover it.
In Canada we have the so-called free health care but we get taxed 15 cents on every dollar spent.
Everything you buy is taxed 15%
These countries that don't have it want it but they don't want a 15% tax.
You can't have the best of two world's.
I ...[text shortened]... TOP COMPLAINING ABOUT UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY 15% ON EVERY DOLLAR SPENT.
I am willing to pay 15% . Private insurance rates here in the US are higher than that. Prescriptions rates in Canada are 40% lower than in the US.
Keep drinking that koolaid.
I had a heart attack and a triple bypass almost 3 years ago and it is useless to visit a doctor since I cannot afford the outrageous prescription costs.
I have been to Canada and even talked with a Canadian surgeon about your healthcare system .
Keep drinking that Koolaid.


@caissad4

You're old and dying so of course you want it.
What about the millions who will never go to a hospital until they are old like you?
Should they pay for your health problems?


@patzering said
@caissad4

You're old and dying so of course you want it.
What about the millions who will never go to a hospital until they are old like you?
Should they pay for your health problems?
Says the ignorant man who HAS health insurance.

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