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US to issue Gender-Neutral (X)Passports

US to issue Gender-Neutral (X)Passports

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@averagejoe1 said
But it is all breaking Down gender. Y’all are actually starting in kindergarten. It all just breaks my heart. You are using gender options to solve problems
Yes, I do indeed find it scary, it just breaks my heart. What in the hell are you people gonna come after next? Sent


You are offering all of this ginger change as a solution to problems. This is horrible. It breaks my heart
Most of the crap you spew here about gender isn't really happening. Remember the litter boxes in classrooms?

Get a grip.


@averagejoe1 said
But it is all breaking Down gender. Y’all are actually starting in kindergarten. It all just breaks my heart. You are using gender options to solve problems
Yes, I do indeed find it scary, it just breaks my heart. What in the hell are you people gonna come after next? Sent


You are offering all of this ginger change as a solution to problems. This is horrible. It breaks my heart
No, no Joe it is simply giving people a perfectly harmless option to express their gender identity or in this case lack of, how do you square constantly wanting to control other folks freedoms with your own use of the phrase freedom as the cornerstone of your political philosophy?
Your posts do not make any sense because you are a snake pit of internalised contradictions.
If your grandchildren do end up viewing themselves as victims then you do not have to look far for the culprit who fostered that delusional outlook.

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@mchill said
Dear Joe - This might shock you, but I don't care about gender neutral passports one way or the other. Please consider the following:

* If a girl tells me that she wants me to think of her as a man, I absolutely will not. - - OK, so don't think of her as a man. I'm not telling you what to think.

* So. 'your lot', Suzianne, everyone, wojuld rip me up one side and down ...[text shortened]... n all of us do, so please...turn your paranoia dial down a few notches, before you blow a gasket - 🙂
Well said, And yes, I am guilty of generalizing. The people in this country promoting all the stuff about which we are writing are liberals. Period. You know it I know it everyone knows it. You are a liberal. Obviously on subjects such as this, my saying 'y'all or you guys' is not meant personally to the person I am responding to.

You don't care about the X. I do, and about what it all leads to.

As to a guy telling me he is a girl, the libs we speak of INDEED dictate that we must honor that person as they project themselves.. They do, and you know it. Like, we are at fault , racist, homowhatever, if we don't.
Watch the news of the day. Usually that report comes on just after y'all canceling Title 42 opening our sovereign border to invaders.


I fear that most libs here do not have families, children going into the future,, as you do not seem to worry about their success in life, which today is on the road to being eroded by the liberal leadership in this country.
Be careful what y'all wish for. You are dreaming if you think things are going to be better. What is better to libs, anyway? Free Stuff? Gimme it!?


@kevcvs57 said
No, no Joe it is simply giving people a perfectly harmless option to express their gender identity or in this case lack of, how do you square constantly wanting to control other folks freedoms with your own use of the phrase freedom as the cornerstone of your political philosophy?
Your posts do not make any sense because you are a snake pit of internalised contradictions. ...[text shortened]... es as victims then you do not have to look far for the culprit who fostered that delusional outlook.
Harmless option? When my grandchildren move into adulthood and don't know what/who the hell they are dealing with, socially and professionally, it aint going to be pretty.
Libs think it is pretty. Do you think it is pretty?

Define harmless.


@averagejoe1 said
Harmless option? When my grandchildren move into adulthood and don't know what/who the hell they are dealing with, socially and professionally, it aint going to be pretty.
Libs think it is pretty. Do you think it is pretty?

Define harmless.
So you are raising your grandchildren to enquire of other people what gender identity marking they have on their passports?
Maybe / hopefully they will turn out to be quite the snowflake that their grandfather is, we all want out children and grandchildren to be better than ourselves Joe, or at least we should.


@kevcvs57 said
So you are raising your grandchildren to enquire of other people what gender identity marking they have on their passports?
Maybe / hopefully they will turn out to be quite the snowflake that their grandfather is, we all want out children and grandchildren to be better than ourselves Joe, or at least we should.
No, that is not what I am doing.
What's next, Kev. You gonna remove age, DOB and maybe even names from a passport? Do you realize that, from our point of view, that it never stops with your movements. And do you not see from our point of view that your movements are all about control, and that from our point of view, you have a totally different definition of Freedom? Do you know your Govt wants to give money to citizens, from one reason to another? Do you know that this creates dependency, which results in control? Which means more government, not less? Liberals? Certainly not us. We just want to be left the hell alone.
As to your Gchildren remarks,,,,,,yeah, I guess I am an unreasonable crumudgeon....Little Sally beings a friend home, sits on the sofa to chat. Kev, how will I know how to address her/him/it? Will you send your protocol police to my house and haul me off? I can see me screaming .....why can't y'all just leave us alone like it has b been for 250 years....or, 10,000 years, come to think of it.
Yeah, this sounds like paranoid rambling to you. It would.

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@averagejoe1 said
You libs are the worst, what in the hell. Glad I lived in the greatest years. Sorry for what my GKids are going to live in.
What is the endgame? At the end of the day, we will all be in the same place? Kamala said that. What is next? Lockdowns?
Upset? Why?
Does what it says on piece of
paper change who you really are?
Save your worry for important issues.
Unless, of course, you've gotta' bad case of homophobia?


@jimm619 said
Upset? Why?
Does what it says on piece of
paper change who you really are?
No it doesn't change who you are, it IDENTIFIES who you are, with a picture and physical description.
That's the whole point of a passport or any other identity card. .


@averagejoe1 said
This post is much more jumbled than the one I just got called out on! I state a few facts for the forum (FFF's), they are not necessarily connected.

My complaint? I said it. Breaking down gender. I really find it amazing that y'all might go to Clubs (like the ones depicted in TV scenes...I have never been to one..). Soon will be a time that you will not know exactl ...[text shortened]... a look at the person's Driver License, and it has X for gender.) Y'all have fun in your new world
Funny that a religious conservative should put out the quote "shall we go to my place ? "
Remember the good old days when that was the dirty term ??


@wildgrass said
Hi again Joe.

It's good to hear your thoughts on the matter. I appreciate your point of view and acknowledge your complaints. Libs move society and culture too fast. They don't think about implications or alternatives or whether there's a better approach. No one can keep up on all the latest offenses or what the letters in LGBTQIA+? means (there's a question mark now the ...[text shortened]... I used to vote for them but now I don't because they honestly have no idea how to act like leaders.
:The last adminisration had more 'ideas' than this one does, and acted on them. Yes. No discussion. The last leader understood economics, business sense. No one in this entire Administration has that quality. Witness, a new budget, $5.8 trillion. It would at least be nice if the money ere properly earmarked. Have you seen the list of where the money is going, when you are not on Trump threads?
I don't get your LGBTQRST? comment. I do wonder about that issue though, I thought you fellers think that what people 'are' is their business. Not mine, not yours. What in the world are you on about? Some of them, to me, are not real, and I prefer to be in a bubble with real people. Sorry if that flies in your face. I frankly have nothing to say about all those people, and reserve the right to pick people I associate with. I cannot envision my, for instance, going 'clubbing', I think that is what you call it. So, a non-issue in Forum. I try not to jump into those threads, as I don't understand it, or why it demands discussion. Is it to force acceptability? Ugg.

Hey, we dont offer the laptop. We are, though, offering up its owner. Don't you think that needs doing? No, since you defended the obstructionist, who also destroyed federal property and was fined last week for her despicable actions, then you probably think no need to expose the Bidens. Why not?

Can't act like leaders? Tell us that Biden is a leader. Jesus. Your post needs cleaning up.

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@jj-adams said
No it doesn't change who you are, it IDENTIFIES who you are, with a picture and physical description.
That's the whole point of a passport or any other identity card. .
Your point being?
It tells if a person is more likely a terrorist?
Couldn't it have a photo?
Couldn't it have a physical description?
HEY, SMALL GOVERNMENT GUY, I'VE AN IDEA
GET THE PASSPORT THAT YOU WANT


@averagejoe1 said
Well said, And yes, I am guilty of generalizing. The people in this country promoting all the stuff about which we are writing are liberals. Period. You know it I know it everyone knows it. You are a liberal. Obviously on subjects such as this, my saying 'y'all or you guys' is not meant personally to the person I am responding to.

You don't care about the X. ...[text shortened]... y that report comes on just after y'all canceling Title 42 opening our sovereign border to invaders.
Are you worried that people will think you are gay?
I met a somewhat effeminate guy, had six kids.
Hey, don't worry what people think/


@jimm619 said
Your point being?
It tells if a person is more likely a terrorist?
Couldn't it have a photo?
Couldn't it have a physical description?
HEY, SMALL GOVERNMENT GUY, I'VE AN IDEA
GET THE PASSPORT THAT YOU WANT
My point being it identifies you.
What's this noise about being a terrorist?
Couldn't it have a physical description?
You mean like the most basic physical description....BEING MALE OR FEMALE?