Originally posted by AThousandYoungThe Summit of the Americas is on April 17-19 and Obama will be meeting with most of the leaders of Latin American countries. I'm sure they'll let him know what their ideas are. It would be presumptuous of me to tell you what I think should be done until I here from the leaders of Latin America and the President of the US.
So, we have an active thread, but no one seems to want to say what they think the US should be doing...just criticism and defense of the US.
How does the US make the situation better in an honorable way?
Originally posted by no1marauderYou've never been shy about being presumptuous before, why start now?
The Summit of the Americas is on April 17-19 and Obama will be meeting with most of the leaders of Latin American countries. I'm sure they'll let him know what their ideas are. It would be presumptuous of me to tell you what I think should be done until I here from the leaders of Latin America and the President of the US.
Originally posted by Sam The ShamI gotta admit, this rings true. I think I'll make a new thread based on this.
Yep, you hit the nail on the head. If the US tries to help, it's called interference and the reason things are bad. If the US does nothing, it's pointed out as the reason they're hurting. This is true of everywhere on the planet, not just Latin America.
That's the problem with you, Americans: black and white, good and bad, up and down, angels and demons, etc.
Most people, when they mature and develop their brains, tend to realize that the world is far more complex than that. Not you, it seems.
Oh, and I almost forgot: you do not necessarily represent the "good guys". There are no "good guys".
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The size of the US economy and millitary is the 500 pound gorilla in the room. Latin American countries are right to seek more cooperation and less conflict, but each country's financial future is over 75% in their own hands in the medium (more for bigger economies, less for smaller economies). Over 90% in their own hands in the long-term.
Originally posted by SeitseOhhhh, behave. Brag up Mexico some more, there's a country that needs to be praised.
That's the problem with you, Americans: black and white, good and bad, up and down, angels and demons, etc.
Most people, when they mature and develop their brains, tend to realize that the world is far more complex than that. Not you, it seems.
Oh, and I almost forgot: you do not necessarily represent the "good guys". There are no "good guys".
Lotta great stuff you have to boast about.
Originally posted by Sam The ShamWhy don't you enlighten us with some of your brilliant quotes about Mexico again?
Ohhhh, behave. Brag up Mexico some more, there's a country that needs to be praised.
Lotta great stuff you have to boast about.
hmm, like that one about Mexico being a toilet, a backward country. That would really make your arguments more balanced, then it would be harder for us to identify your KKK membership.
Originally posted by Sam The ShamYeah, the canal was proven to be good for the world.
We dug a hole through Panama for the good of the world, they didn't seem to mind.
However, here's a quote from Wikipedia: "U.S. control of the canal and the Canal Zone surrounding it became contentious as relations between Panama and the U.S. became increasingly tense. Many Panamanians felt that the canal zone rightfully belonged to Panama; student protests were met by the fencing in of the zone and an increased military presence."
So I guess they did mind.
Originally posted by generalissimo"Many" Panamanians. How many is that?
Yeah, the canal was proven to be good for the world.
However, here's a quote from Wikipedia: "U.S. control of the canal and the Canal Zone surrounding it became contentious as relations between Panama and the U.S. became increasingly tense. Many Panamanians felt that the canal zone rightfully belonged to Panama; student protests were met by the fencing in of the zone and an increased military presence."
So I guess they did mind.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungEnough to form an 'angry crowd' of 5000-35000.
"Many" Panamanians. How many is that?
http://www.czbrats.com/Jackson/martyrs/martyrs.htm
What I didn't know is that Roosevelt caused Panama to come into existence because Colombia didn't want to go along with his plans. Quite the real-politiker, Roosevelt.
Originally posted by Sam The ShamHighest per capital income in latin america, does not invade its neighbors and its contitution takes a stand against large countries making agressions against smaller countries, avacados, mangos, more free trade agreements in last 15 years that most if not all nations on earth, many more billionairs per capita than most nations on earth, continuing reduction in poverty and growth of exports since free trade acceleration of last 15 years, functioning democracy, reformed currency regime now has a floating peso that allows flexibility and avoidance of crisis for 15 years, one of the most biodiverse nations on earth, multiple languages spoken and protection for native rights in its constitution, oil, silver, rapidly developing housing market for the lower middle classes, rapidly developing auto sectors, it sector, bpo's, predicted to be amonst the top 7 largest economy by 2050 by morgan stanley economists that conied the term bric, etc...
Ohhhh, behave. Brag up Mexico some more, there's a country that needs to be praised.
Lotta great stuff you have to boast about.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI think you should read up on all the coups, financed coups, invasions, etc. the US has carried out in South and Central America in the last 50 years.
Chavez said that he'll have some questions for the new U.S. leader when they finally meet.
"Somebody needs to ask him what his vision is for the crisis that's weighing terribly on Latin America," he said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090404/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_us_relations;_ylt=AoOuIw8efDOrDcBsSS1rLQ63IxIF
What crisis is Cha ...[text shortened]... eft up to individual Americans? What do you think of the Monroe Doctrine? Good or bad? Why?
Originally posted by AThousandYoungBrings back some memories, doesn't it? Like a mustached man with tiny glasses thumping around Panama with a Big Stick?
Chavez said that he'll have some questions for the new U.S. leader when they finally meet.
"Somebody needs to ask him what his vision is for the crisis that's weighing terribly on Latin America," he said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090404/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_us_relations;_ylt=AoOuIw8efDOrDcBsSS1rLQ63IxIF
What crisis is Cha ...[text shortened]... eft up to individual Americans? What do you think of the Monroe Doctrine? Good or bad? Why?