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@Metal-Brain
Clearly it matters ZERO to you how many of those workers will KILL their patients.
Did you actually read what I said about the medical profession?
FIRST DO NO HARM.
Not getting vaxxed when you actually are in contact with sick people IS doing harm, and there is NO defense to justify that I THINK criminal behavior by those workers.
I wouldn't FIRE them. I would ARRESST their sorry asses.
But of course that is not your agenda at all.
It is clear you could care less who is vaxxed or who is not.
What you are CLEARLY interested in is WEAPONIZING covid for your own sick political agenda.
You fool NOBODY.
@sonhouse saidThe CDC admits the gene vaccines do not stop the spread.
@Metal-Brain
Clearly it matters ZERO to you how many of those workers will KILL their patients.
Did you actually read what I said about the medical profession?
FIRST DO NO HARM.
Not getting vaxxed when you actually are in contact with sick people IS doing harm, and there is NO defense to justify that I THINK criminal behavior by those workers.
I wouldn't FIRE th ...[text shortened]... e CLEARLY interested in is WEAPONIZING covid for your own sick political agenda.
You fool NOBODY.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!
It clearly it matters ZERO to you that vaccinated people spread covid just as much as the unvaccinated. You don't want to be confused with facts.
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@Metal-Brain
THE FACT JACK is vaxxed folks spread the virus a LOT less than un vaxxed but you want to ONLY weaponize the situation for your sick political agenda which includes killing democracy in the US and ensuring ONLY repubs run the country permanently.
I can only assume you are ok with that idea, screw democracy since ONLY repubs can run the country 'right', right?
@sonhouse saidThe results say otherwise.
@Metal-Brain
THE FACT JACK is vaxxed folks spread the virus a LOT less than un vaxxed but you want to ONLY weaponize the situation for your sick political agenda which includes killing democracy in the US and ensuring ONLY repubs run the country permanently.
I can only assume you are ok with that idea, screw democracy since ONLY repubs can run the country 'right', right?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/delta-tearing-states-despite-high-115328590.html
If you were right the most vaccinated regions would have less infections. Since the opposite is true you have to be wrong.
@Metal-Brain
You are deliberately being obtuse in a subject you don't seem to know very well, but that is only the stupid persona you have given yourself.
It is more and more clear you love to yank chains using arguments you full well has holes as big as swiss cheese but you use them anyway in your deliberate effort to get belly laughs.
@sonhouse saidIf you were right the most vaccinated regions would have less infections. Since the opposite is true you have to be wrong.
@Metal-Brain
You are deliberately being obtuse in a subject you don't seem to know very well, but that is only the stupid persona you have given yourself.
It is more and more clear you love to yank chains using arguments you full well has holes as big as swiss cheese but you use them anyway in your deliberate effort to get belly laughs.
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@metal-brain saidYour comment is false; New England states might be having an upsurge in cases primarily among the unvaccinated but their active case rates are nowhere near the highest in the country:
The results say otherwise.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/delta-tearing-states-despite-high-115328590.html
If you were right the most vaccinated regions would have less infections. Since the opposite is true you have to be wrong.
Vermont: 4,580 active cases - 1 in 140 of population
Connecticut: 20,212 active cases - 1 in 175
Massachusetts: 88,000 active case - 1 in 80
Vermont and Connecticut are first and second in percentage of population vaccinated; Massachusetts is 5th. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-population-vaccinated-march-15.html
For the US, it is 9,860,357 active cases or 1 in 37
Of course, even in the most vaccinated States, about 1/3 of the population remains unvaccinated.
@no1marauder saidYou are wrong.
Your comment is false; New England states might be having an upsurge in cases primarily among the unvaccinated but their active case rates are nowhere near the highest in the country:
Vermont: 4,580 active cases - 1 in 140 of population
Connecticut: 20,212 active cases - 1 in 175
Massachusetts: 88,000 active case - 1 in 80
Vermont and Connecticut are first and sec ...[text shortened]...
Of course, even in the most vaccinated States, about 1/3 of the population remains unvaccinated.
You also proved nothing in that post. All you did is claim it was false and didn't prove it at all. You cannot blame the most vaccinated states having more infections on the unvaccinated. Do I have to explain how stupid that is?
@metal-brain saidIt's in the "stupid" article you cited (you really should try reading them before citing them):
You are wrong.
You also proved nothing in that post. All you did is claim it was false and didn't prove it at all. You cannot blame the most vaccinated states having more infections on the unvaccinated. Do I have to explain how stupid that is?
"Even though parts of New England are seeing record case counts, hospitalizations and deaths that rival pre-vaccine peaks, largely among the unvaccinated, the region hasn’t seen the impact the delta variant wave has wrought on other parts of the country. "
https://www.yahoo.com/news/delta-tearing-states-despite-high-115328590.html
That also debunks your entire premise that the most vaccinated States have the highest rates of cases.
@no1marauder saidWhat other states?
It's in the "stupid" article you cited (you really should try reading them before citing them):
"Even though parts of New England are seeing record case counts, hospitalizations and deaths that rival pre-vaccine peaks, largely among the unvaccinated, the region hasn’t seen the impact the delta variant wave has wrought on other parts of the country. "
https:// ...[text shortened]... at also debunks your entire premise that the most vaccinated States have the highest rates of cases.
Compare infection rates to those other states and prove it.
One little excerpt from the article is not proof.
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@metal-brain saidI already showed the rates in the Vermont, Connecticut and Massachusetts were far below the US rates as a whole; you can do your own research as to individual States.
What other states?
Compare infection rates to those other states and prove it.
One little excerpt from the article is not proof.
It was YOUR claim that the States with the highest vaccination rates had the highest rate of cases, remember?
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@no1marauder saidNo, you said it and never provided your source of information.
I already showed the rates in the Vermont, Connecticut and Massachusetts were far below the US rates as a whole; you can do your own research as to individual States.
It was YOUR claim that the States with the highest vaccination rates had the highest rate of cases, remember?
It doesn't matter though. I already proved Portugal had more infections than India and Vietnam. I already proved my case on the international level.
Those states have had a recent increase in cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2021/sep/02/covid-19-coronavirus-us-map-latest-cases-state-by-state
The vaccinated are spreading it faster to the unvaccinated. That is because most of them don't know they are spreading it. Remember that pro gene vaccine ad on TV where some guy said he took the vaccine so he could give his mother a hug? DUH! Even the government's ads are misinformation. They are encouraging people to believe they can go out and hug all their elderly relatives.
People who took the gene vaccine are like a pool table cue ball. They are huggers and super spreaders. They are going out and visiting everyone and giving them hugs.
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@metal-brain saidhttps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
No, you said it and never provided your source of information.
It doesn't matter though. I already proved Portugal had more infections than India and Vietnam. I already proved my case on the international level.
Those states have had a recent increase in cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2021/sep/02/covid-19-coronavirus-us-map-latest-cases-sta ...[text shortened]... They are huggers and super spreaders. They are going out and visiting everyone and giving them hugs.
Your assertions about the vaccinated being the source of the increase in cases is baseless and you've offered zero evidence to support it. It is the unvaccinated who are more likely to engage in risky behavior mainly because they think COVID is no big deal:
"Three-fourths of unvaccinated adults, including nine in ten of those who say they will “definitely not” get the vaccine, say they are “not worried” about getting seriously sick from the virus, less than half say they are worried about the Delta variant worsening the pandemic, more than half (including 75% of “definitely not” ) say getting vaccinated is a bigger risk to their health than getting infected with coronavirus, and a quarter (just one in ten of “definitely not” ) say the vaccines are effective at keeping vaccinated people from dying from COVID-19 or getting seriously ill."
"Majorities of vaccinated adults say news of the variants has made them more likely to wear a mask in public (62% ) or avoid large gatherings (61% ), while fewer unvaccinated adults say the same (37% and 40%, respectively)."
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-july-2021/
And though you keep denying it, studies show the vaccinated have much less chance of spreading COVID than the unvaccinated. https://www.yahoo.com/now/vaccinated-people-less-likely-spread-203900647.html
@no1marauder saidThen you should be able to prove it with data.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
Your assertions about the vaccinated being the source of the increase in cases is baseless and you've offered zero evidence to support it. It is the unvaccinated who are more likely to engage in risky behavior mainly because they think COVID is no big deal:
"Three-fourths of unvaccinated adults, including nine in ...[text shortened]... than the unvaccinated. https://www.yahoo.com/now/vaccinated-people-less-likely-spread-203900647.html
What is your source of information?
You need to compare vaccination rates to infection rates.
@Metal-Brain
WE don't need to do useless research. Write up your OWN paper and submit it to a medical journal THEN we can talk.