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Vaccine misinformation: What misinformation?

Vaccine misinformation: What misinformation?

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I watched some political talk shows today and they had the Surgeon General talking and he didn't make any effort at all to correct common misinformation going around on social media. Why not? He had the perfect opportunity to get the message out about specific myths.

What is the misinformation? Is it a secret? Is the misinformation so dangerous that he cannot even mention it, even to correct the myth?

All he had to do is bring up a subject to debunk. Let's use Graphene Oxide for an example. Here is a claim I don't know much about, but has become popular lately. Heck, I don't even know if Graphene Oxide is toxic as claimed. I saw some articles promoting the use of it in vaccines. Aside from that I know nothing about it.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-graphene-oxide-a-toxic-substance-in-the-vial-of-the-covid-19-mrna-vaccine/5750340

All he had to say is that it is not true and is a claim made by some hacks in Spain. Myth debunked. Then he could address another myth.

How do we know it is misinformation they don't like. If they will not give a single example maybe it is the truth they have a problem with. That would explain why they don't try to debunk them. Notice they will not claim the mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy. They know the FDA classifies mRNA treatment as gene therapy.

Yeah, the government wants to pressure facebook into censoring the truth. That makes more sense. They don't even give a website to read common myths and facts. If it was misinformation they had a problem with, they would talk about the specific myths and debunk them.

It is the truth they have a problem with. They don't want to get caught lying like Fauci did so many times. Notice Fauci is nowhere on TV to talk about it. That is because he is leading spreader of misinformation. It would be obvious hypocrisy that would go viral on facebook. They condone that though. Nobody censored his lies.

Nobody should condone this hypocrisy. It is too obvious to defend it.

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@metal-brain said
I watched some political talk shows today and they had the Surgeon General talking and he didn't make any effort at all to correct common misinformation going around on social media. Why not? He had the perfect opportunity to get the message out about specific myths.

What is the misinformation? Is it a secret? Is the misinformation so dangerous that he cannot even ment ...[text shortened]... . Nobody censored his lies.

Nobody should condone this hypocrisy. It is too obvious to defend it.
No. Most people don’t spend time thinking a out all the misinformation you morons keep projecting.

If an expert on gardening is being interviewed and there’s misinformation about evil garden gnomes pissing on the lawn going around, would you expect the expert to address it?

Nope. Don’t be ridiculous.

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@shavixmir said
No. Most people don’t spend time thinking a out all the misinformation you morons keep projecting.

If an expert on gardening is being interviewed and there’s misinformation about evil garden gnomes pissing on the lawn going around, would you expect the expert to address it?

Nope. Don’t be ridiculous.
What misinformation?

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@metal-brain said
What misinformation?
Hahaha

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@metal-brain said
What misinformation?
My point exactly.

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@shavixmir said
My point exactly.
You cannot give a single example. You have nothing.

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@metal-brain said
You cannot give a single example. You have nothing.
Every post you make. Most of the post.

Everytime you say something about corona or vaccines you are completely wrong.

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@shavixmir said
Every post you make. Most of the post.

Everytime you say something about corona or vaccines you are completely wrong.
You cannot give a single example. You have nothing.

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@metal-brain said
You cannot give a single example. You have nothing.
Gene therapy, French vaccination passports, etc.

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@shavixmir said
Gene therapy, French vaccination passports, etc.
The FDA classifies mRNA treatment as gene therapy. This has been proven to you many times and you still lie about it.

Look up passport in the dictionary. You think the truth is a lie and lies are the truth. What is wrong with you?

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@metal-brain said
The FDA classifies mRNA treatment as gene therapy. This has been proven to you many times and you still lie about it.

Look up passport in the dictionary. You think the truth is a lie and lies are the truth. What is wrong with you?
No it doesn’t. Because it is not.
There is no primer so it can’t be gene therapy.

Both No1 and I have explained this multiple times to you. And you don’t understand the FDA’s webpage on te subject.

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No it doesn’t. Because it is not.
There is no primer so it can’t be gene therapy.

Both No1 and I have explained this multiple times to you. And you don’t understand the FDA’s webpage on te subject.
You are a LIAR!

You cannot prove what you are saying because it is a lie. You couldn't before and you cannot now. You are just making up BS. You are pathetic!

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@metal-brain said
You are a LIAR!

You cannot prove what you are saying because it is a lie. You couldn't before and you cannot now. You are just making up BS. You are pathetic!
Dude. Seriously.
Get a grip on reality. You’ve went down a rabbit hole. It can happen to anyone. Instead of digging deeper, just come up and breath some fresh air.

There, there.

There is no mass conspiracy to cover up the true intent of vaccinations, it’s not gene therapy, there are no microchips in the vaccine, the French are not attempting to annihilate personal privacy (nor are the Dutch), nobody’s deliberatly tampering with data, etc.

It’s a dangerous and very quick spreading disease. People are doing their best to save lifes, stop the spreading (read this as: make sure health services don’t collapse) and now they’re trying to open up society as safely as possible.

Sometimes mistakes will be made. This cannot be helped. Everyone’s working as fast as possible in a new situation.
They are mistakes, not deliberate actions of perversion. There is no double agenda.

That’s why data perimiters and the like change. It’s a work in progress to see what data is best suited to steer policy. Etc.
It’s not about lying to the public or anything sinister.

Could other choices be made? Sort of. But as you see, the vast majority of countries came to the same conclusions: if you let the virus rip, you’ll collapse the health service.
Hence actions taken.

Now, with the opening of society, you see infection numbers explode again. Mainly in the unvaccinated groups. But every vaccine is only 85 to 95% effective. So, some people who are vaccinated (especially those with compromising second illnesses) are gonna get hospitalised as well.

Most will not get very ill. That’s the vaccine and the age working. But with meha explosions of outbreaks, it’s gonna take a toll on the vaccinated population as well.
And that’s what the worry is at the moment in the West: how big a toll?
And the first signs are encouraging. Hospital numbers are staying within limits.

But there are still too many unvaccinated people.
So you need measures in place.

Outside of the West vaccinations are way too low. This is going to cause lots of spreading. The more spreading, the quicker mutations appear. This is potentially dangerous.

Most virusses become quicker, less deadly spreaders as they mutate (because it benefits the virus), but who’s to say?

And this is it.
That is literally it.

Come out of your rabbit hole, get vaccinated and have a beer.

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@shavixmir said
Dude. Seriously.
Get a grip on reality. You’ve went down a rabbit hole. It can happen to anyone. Instead of digging deeper, just come up and breath some fresh air.

There, there.

There is no mass conspiracy to cover up the true intent of vaccinations, it’s not gene therapy, there are no microchips in the vaccine, the French are not attempting to annihilate personal pr ...[text shortened]... this is it.
That is literally it.

Come out of your rabbit hole, get vaccinated and have a beer.
You went down the rabbit hole.

The first sentence in the following link says this:

"Human gene therapy seeks to modify or manipulate the expression of a gene or to alter the biological properties of living cells for therapeutic use"

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/cellular-gene-therapy-products/what-gene-therapy

mRNA vaccines do just that. They "alter the biological properties of living cells".

Once again I proved you wrong. The FDA says nothing about a primer. You were obviously misinformed since you repeatedly refused to provide your source of information. Probably a wrong self proclaimed fact checker and there are many opinion pieces calling themselves fact checkers. Facebook calls them "protected opinions" while being sued. Even facebook denies they represent facts.

The FDA classifies what is gene therapy and what is not. Nobody else's opinion matters. If you cannot prove your claim using the FDA, you have failed.

Stop lying. You know you are lying and you never prove any of your claims so it is obvious you are lying. This is the debate forum, not the avoid debate forum. Admit you are wrong before you continue to embarrass yourself. The more you troll while offering no proof the more evident it is you are wrong even to others in denial.

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@metal-brain said
Stop lying. You know you are lying and you never prove any of your claims so it is obvious you are lying.
Remember when you just said that about protests in your *own* home state of Michigan? You swore so confidently that it was a "lie" that protests happened, only to get refuted instantly that armed protesters stormed Michigan's capitol building with guns and police had to be called.

You were wrong then about your OWN state, even though this made headlines nationwide; you think you can't be wrong now?

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